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Adrian14MZ:
Hi Fred, re Insurance.
How does the A + B cert test work/apply to a new person wanting to get into the hobby but only wants to fly Gliders from registered slopes ( ie. Joins the ISR ). How does he do his A or B cert test and if he is a novice starting out, is it not necessary for him to have an A or B cert model pilot stand beside him, as he fly's, just like standard powered MACI affiliated clubs.  

Adrian.

Fred:
Hi Adrian,

There is no A and B cert for gliders (so far!)

On another word, we don't think like power flyers :) We are much cooler  :P

New comer, just come and enjoy the hobby with us. No questions asked! (well, insurance is a plus :) ) Help will be provided by whoever is here, and he don't even have to be an ISR club member. And free. Might even get some drinks and food in the process :)

Now, if the same guy goes to other slopes and events that are handled by other clubs / people, I can't answer, but officially, there is no A+B certs, and I guess local club rules applies.

I can ask the question at the AGM on Saturday, as I have to admit, I don't have a clue what is the "official" answer, but maybe someone knows (Ralph?)

rogallo:
Hi,
   first if you read the section from the MACI website it explains all of this.
I would advise that all ISR events are MACI published events and thus are subject to the rules and regs of the MACI. People are welcome to attend any of our events but should note we expect all flyers to have adequate insurance cover. It is in all of our interests for this to be the case. If a person wishes to fly in a public space we have no control over the individual but as far as the ISR are concerened they are individuals and not participants in our events.

Please note we welcome everyone to our events but we must also safeguard the members of our club and the MACI.

please read MACI regarding the insurance cover as they provide the insurance cover through their insurers and not the ISR.

I hope this answers your question.

http://www.maci.ie/rulebook/AB-cert-rules.html

(PDF version includes schedules for the aerobatic and helicopter A and B tests)

The main aim of the A and B Achievement Schemes is to encourage model flyers to reach a minimum standard of flying ability and safety and to promote a desire for personal betterment in achieving as high a standard as possible in their flying.

Two R/C power categories are covered:

    (A) Fixed Wing Aircraft
    (H) Helicopters

M.A.C.I. will not charge any fees for any A or B certificate examination.

There shall be 2 achievement levels for R/C powered model flying:

    The A Certificate level
    The B Certificate level

The A certificate shall generally be an acknowledgement of a person's capability to control an R/C model in a safe manner in normal circumstances without the assistance of a supervising instructor.

The B certificate shall generally be an acknowledgement of a person's capability to control an R/C model in such a manner that he/she is able to fly at a public display. A member must pass the relevant “A” certificate before completing the B Certificate.

MACI do not guarantee any capability or the performance of any individual as a result of the issue of an achievement certificate. The certificate only states that the candidate achieved the required standard during the test.

Fred:
What he said ^^

Thanks Ralph. Insurance is a must, more especially for us who fly in "public" places.
After that, I think we all agree, we will not stop anybody flying because they don't have their A or B certs (I have none here, but I have all the French ones :) )

Adrian14MZ:
Hi Lads.

So does this mean or are you saying that we, the members of the ISR do not need an A or B cert to cover us by MACI Insurance, against any accident that may occur, unless we are flying an Electric Powered Gliders off any of the recognised slopes within the 26 Counties. I take it, the ISR, are paying an affiliation fee to MACI and it is registered as a recognised Club within the MACI and its individual members pay the MACI fee for their membership No. IRL 346 + Insurance cover. If this is the case and it looks like Slope Soaring is in a Grey area within our Insurance cover. Should we not seek clarity re this question and get the answer in writing from the powers that be. One never knows what is around the corner and it may be needed some-day.

Adrian.

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