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Which EDF model for a learner?
Happy Days:
Couldn’t resist having a go at Derk’s low flying at a high angle of attack stunt. :D (As in the video)
Even with loads of concentration I failed. :( The plane stalled,……… and snapped off the nose.
(Two minutes with a spot of glue and all back together again :) .) But the experience raised some interesting questions in my mind.
Firstly I didn’t really think I’d be able to do it. I’ve less than an hour flying time on jets. Derk, I’m told, has had a lifetime. 8)
Now I know a ‘Bad workman always blames his tools’ but I’m wondering if the Squall is actually capable of doing the same stunt as Derk did. :?: It can fly at a high angle of attack while loosing height, but maintaining that steep nose up angle whilst in level flight just didn’t seem possible.
Looking at the F-16 it has fully moving elevators, right at the rear of the fuse. (Where else would they be!!!)
The Squall had elevons, and these are some 20% further forward. Whether this has any relivance or not I don’t know. I’m also wondering if the F-16 had a VT unit fitted :?:
So,…………all you jet jockey’s out there. Do you think it’s possible, in the hands of a skilled jet pilot, that the Squall could perform such a trick?
K.
Ron:
Hmmmm
Food for thought indeed.
Maybe, just maybe, the VT unit providing 'elevator' type thrust right at the rear, might allow this stunt?
Or maybe Derk's stunt was more balancing on it's tail than actually flying :?
Ron
Happy Days:
--- Quote from: "Ron" ---Hmmmm
Maybe, just maybe, the VT unit providing 'elevator' type thrust right at the rear, might allow this stunt?
Or maybe Derk's stunt was more balancing on it's tail than actually flying :?
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Well that’s what I thought Ron, but I couldn’t see a VT unit in the vid.
I tried to balance the Squall on it’s tail……….I don’t have anything like enough skill yet, :roll: but I did find that trying to do it is incredibly difficult. With little or no air moving over the control surfaces, the slightest breeze flips the plane over. :oops:
It’s nothing like prop hanging a propeller powered plane, which produces a massive amount of “prop wash” over the elevator & rudder giving a fair amount of control.
With a jet, there is no prop wash.
It doesn’t help trying to do these tricks at a safe height either. (So there is time to recover and regain control.) As the plane is so small it’s difficult to see the subtle movements. :!:
I want to know how he did it! :evil: :evil:
Keith
Ron:
Yes that all-moving tailplane must be a big help.
As you say, no propwash, so the bigger the control surfaces the better.
I can't see a VT unit either...
I think Derk had a very calm day too, not a windy hilltop.
Still looking forward to mine arriving though :lol:
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Ron:
Well....
Parcelforce say my Squall left Gatwick at 22:00 yesterday :D
Lets hope the batteries last :lol: :lol:
Ron
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