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Gliders => Slope Soaring => Topic started by: luke on October 04, 2008, 15:52:58 PM
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flew my phase 6 for the first time last weekend, even though the final weight came to 31/4 lb weight.
thinking that she would fly in nothing less than a gale i flung her off ito a steady 5/6 mhp breeze and guess what she flew lovely, was pleasantly supprised, elevator was a little twitchy . landing however was hair raising
jeez she comes in fast !!!!! i just couldnt bleed off enough speed to land her so i just jept going back farther and farther and eventually i was able to bleed off enough speed to land her, even though i think she was starting to go into the sink ! i have only one servo driving the ailerons so i have adjusted the ailerons in a slight droop to try and slow her.
cant wait for the next flight :D
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That is great! Way to go!
Wasn't it possible to get two servos for the ailerons so you could use some mixing like airbrakes?
And share some photos of the plane! :)
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Hi Luke,
Same here, congratulation on the maiden flight ! :clap: :clap:
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thanks ice , thanks fred. i could have put an extra servo but i just wanted to have it as simple as possible, anyway had another flight this afternoon,just back ,im getting the hang of landing , the elevator is a good break :D
if used with a little caution, (wing drop)
no im very pleased with it, she can do the light stuff too 4-6 mph but it really depends on the quality of the slope
ive tried to put a pic up of it already, it says its too big even though it is 640x480
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Hi Luke,
Sound good !
Looks like you have a machine to fly almost "every day" ! :D
For the photos, the size limit is 600x600 pix max.
I use photofiltre to resize my photos, great tool and free to download :D
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i think so fred ,i trimmed her out properly there today and as i said im getting to grips with landing something so slick as the phase 6 without airbreaks, but the phase 6 will definitely be a soft site machine,
me jp bullet is the ultimate all terrain flier, god bless epp :lol:
thanks for the tip on resizing photos fred
here`s my girl
(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/luke/revampt%20ph%206.jpg)
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Corrrrrr! it looks similar to Joe's JART. :D Can it break the sound barrier as well?
K.
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:lol: yeah shes prettty slick alright, sorry bout the rubber bands :oops: , just seemed a better option im still learning her little ways
this is the ship it all started off on, shes my fly anywhere ship
the jperkins bullet
ugly but fun :lol:
(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/luke/rev%20bullet.jpg)
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Nice!
Just love the smile on the wing! :)
Is that EPP covered with tape?
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yep, its an E.P.P fuse and wing lightly sanded (for better adhesion of the tape) then covered with crossweave tape ,i put coloured packing tape on the wings just to make it a bit more visable. i also gave the packing tape a touch of a warm iron just to make it stick better, its still on :D
but if your keen to fly something that can handle a prang or two, and your not too fussy bout the look, this or a flying wing is one way of getting started
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Yea, I'll say 'Amen' to that Luke. Thank god for EPP. Marvellous stuff. (and cheap too!)
K.
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Hey Luke,.........
Looking at the picture of your Phase 6 I see you've "Banded" the wings on. ( Good idea I'd say :clap: )
But how have you managed to fit the dowls through the fuse' and avoid the wooden elevator control rod :?:
I've got the same problem right now in my build. So,........how did you do it? :?
Keith
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well keith,
sorry bout being so slow with a reply havent been on line in ages, i didnt bother with the timber push rods, i just uses ordinary wire rods with extra formers down along for suppoort (thats another reason why she took so much lead to balance her :oops: ) what i did then was to put an extra triangular plate of lite ply to act as a doubler to the front of where the wing sits , why did i do this ???? becouse after my first flight i came in a little hard with one wing down and tore out the plate foe the nylon bolt. so i reckond that sticking in dowels and using rubber bands would be better (theres a little play on them enough to soak up a bad landing, takes from the appearance though
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Well many thanks for all that info Luke.
Anticipating the problems you spoke of vis heavy landings I too have put in extra doublers. In fact I've put them throughout the whole of the front section and back to just behind the wing saddle area. I've also reinforced the floor of the nose and lined the whole front section with a layer of glass. I figured that rather than use lead as ballast I might as well use the reinforcing as ballast. (I did think of calling this model "Bomb Proof" A friend said he thought 'Nuke Proof might be better :lol: My wife recons no model is Keith Proof ...........she says I break everything I fly!)
(She's not very understanding!:roll: )
Left with the problem of how to get the banding dowels through the fuse, and past the wooden elevator control rod, I've used parts of the original metal aileron control rods instead of wooden dowels (I've fitted servo's in the wings to operate the ailerons.)
Being smaller diameter than wooden dowels I can just get the metal rods through the fuse, beneath the saddle doubler, and over the top of the elevator control rod. It's all a bit of a tight squeeze, but so far I can't see any reason why it wont all work. :?:
So thanks again for coming back to me Luke. I've just finished covering the tail feathers so it shouldn't be long before it's time to maiden her. :)
Watch this space, I'll keep you posted.
Keith
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no problem keith , i dont know if this helps but when i was mounting the servos i put them as far forward as possible (past the wing seat, and as low down to the floor as possible) i find that i go through phases like that aswel (cant keep anything in the air but it passes) good luck with finishig and test flying it keith,
ill keep an eye out for the report
tell me how you find the elevator response
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Hey Luke,.........you asked me to let you know about the evelator response.
Well, I maidened her on Tuesday with the min advised 3/16" up & down movement I found her rather "twitchy". If the truth be told I was a little surprised to have got her down in one piece.
After adding 20% expo she was much better behaved. Climbed better too. :D
Today I took her out again, this time with with the max recomended 5/16" movement. I maintained the 20% expo and found that once again she was very sensitive to both evelator and aileron stick movement. Answer: More expo. Eventualy with 35% expo on the elevator, and 25% on the aileron she was handling smoothly. :D
Loops are very .............don't know what word to use,..........prompt and tight. (with the stick fully back)
Rolls are quite rapid with only little loss of height. (This is also when moving the stick all the way.)
Inverted is fine too, though I had to keep the stick a bit forward all the time as she's only got the semi-symetric wing.
Rudder doesn't seem very effective. I've got it set to max 1&1/2 " movement but she is very lazy in terms of Yaw.
Landing, :oops: ..............er.......that's another matter. She comes in like a bloody missile. I don't envy you trying to put a Phase 6 on the ground with out any form of braking. I'm fine with mine because I've got spoilerons, but as you're only using a single aileron servo you must be a better pilot than me Luke. :clap:
So, how have you been getting on with yours?
K.
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well done keith, theres a glass of brandy waiting for you in the pitts :lol:
sounds like you had your hands full, it must be a thing with the phase 6 mine was the exactly the same , thats why i asked im not a great fan of expo,i dont like the deadness in the sticks, but when i tried it i went as far as 20% and stopped i just fly her regular (no expo ) although a little mitnt hurt.she`s still in one piece id like to take her out again. i know what you mean about the landings , before i was trying the long approach but could never bleed enough speed off to land her..............so then i tried the fast about turn landing , (this involes all the surfaces rudder ,elevator, aileron in unison in a real tight turn, it works you bleed off so much speed , but can get a little too exciting at times :shock:
wellwear with your phase 6 , and stick up a pic , id like to see it
regards
luke
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Yeah, these Phase 6's certainly keep you on your toes!
We must keep trying Luke. As the old saying goes, "Defeat is momentary"
There's a picie of mine on this forum.......Misc > "Prob Building Phase 6 Fuselarge"
Keith
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jeez keith just had a peek at ur phase 6 on the other forum, Nice :D
truly is a work of art , well done :clap:
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Hi Luke, how are you getting on with the Phase 6?
I have to say mine is looking decidedly battle scared.. :( As you may have seen in other threads of the forum I lost all elevator control when the plane was diving from 6-700 feet above the valley floor and she just nose dived into the ground.
I've also found that sometimes when landing, just as I flare, the rudder "grounds". I've chamfered the underside of the rudder now but this problem of rudder grounding has caused some damage to the rudder and on one occasion removed the fin as well.
On the positive side I found the Phase 6 is rather good at 4 point rolls. (Not that mine are exactly 90 degree points :oops: ) Have you tried any?
Keith
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well keith,
sorry bout your misshap, funny you should say that becouse my phase 6 has to be pulled out of a dive, she wont come out herself, and this tends to be a little scary when your winding up for a loop(s) i think i have c.g. issues , what im doing at the moment in an attempt to lighten her a little is drill 11/2 inch holes down the side of the fuse and do the same with the elevator and rudder, i dont know, it mabey a fools errand but worth a try coz theres waaaay too much lead in the nose to balance her.i reckon i might have saved 20g-50g already
hope everything fixes right for you fred
hope you will be in the air soon
luke
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Drilling holes to balance her :shock: With respect Luke are you sure you're testing her balance in the right point? Should be 4 1/2 inches back from the LE. At that point she should either remain horizontal or just tip slightly forward. I haven't heard of anyone having to drill holes to balance a Phase 6.
F.Y.I. I suggest you do a quick check of the elevator linkage. :wink: The problem with mine was that the 'elevator rod pivot lever' in the tail became un-welded. Check to see if yours is okay by holding the elevator and operating the elevator stick forward and back. Keep an eye on the elevator servo and if you see the servo moving but can't feel the elevator move by an equivalent amount I'd say you've got the same problem. (Eventually the weld on mine gave out completely, that's why she went nose in.)
Keith
On a slightly different note, I belive the Cork club have a Fly-In around this time of year. I'd hope to make it and if you did as well we could meet up and compare notes. It'd be nice to put a face to the name, so to speak!
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your right ther fred , that could be another thing to check. i think your missing me there a bit, what im trying to do is lighten her, and try to make her a little bit more user friendly. im going to try and reduce the angle of incidence in the wing, if i put a 2mm strip uder the t.e. of the wing it reduces the angle of incidence by 1 degree,
yeah that would be nice alright , meet other sick people like myself :lol:
but im very rarely down cork way . im usually around killaloe,
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Hey Luke,
Keith, not Fred ! I am much more beautifull, and young ! (and a bit fat as well... :lol: )
The incidence depend of you CofG too, both are related. Changing the incidence will not necessarely fix your problem as you have to work on both front at the same time.
In flight, if you do the dive test, what happen ? That will be your best guess to see if something is wrong or not.
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My dear Fred,
Younger than me, you may be........ :oops:
More knowledgeable than me in matters of aerodynamics, you may be,...... :oops:
But better looking? :shock: ........ Definitely NOT :roll:
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AAhhh Keith, you say that because you never saw me on a saturday night with my make up ! :lol: :P
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:lol: :lol: Wearing a french maid's dress with black stockings? :clap: :clap:
(Now that I must see before I die)
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Ah stop. Now I won't be able to sleep tonight :lol: :lol:
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Phantasm !
:mrgreen:
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Im soooooo sorry keith, just had so much on my mind lately.
as i said, when pushed into a dive she will not come out of her own accord. all im really trying to do is to make her nicer to fly and try to lighten her.
ive been trawling the www looking for an answer to this: what effect does changing the angle of incidence do to the flight pattern of an rc glider????[/u]
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To be honest Luke, I don't know of any planes that come out of a dive without at least a little "up" evelator.
Certainly none of mine do :?:
May be I'm misunderstanding you. :?: Are you saying you expect the plane to pull it'self out of a dive?
I've always found that if a plane is in a dive I have to pull back on the stick for a moment to return the model to level flight. When it's in level flight I can let go of the controlls and (if properly trimmed) she'll continue in straight and level flight.
As for changing the angle of incidence,...............seems a bit drastic, and Fred is your man (or woman if he's wearing his frenchmaids outfit!) for matters relating to that.
Been flying my Phase 6 today. :D Thoroughly enjoyed it. Provided it's balanced at the correct point and trimmed properly it's a lovely model. (And mine weighs 25% more than recomended.)
Very agile although, as we've said, rather quick.
If you're finding the Phase 6 a bit of a handfull, why not go back to your foamie for a while, and then return to the Phase later. Or convert the Phase to twin aileron servos so you can use spoilerons to slow her for landing. They certainly slow the plane up when landing.(Just an idea)
K.
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I don't know of any planes that come out of a dive without at least a little "up" evelator.
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Are you saying you expect the plane to pull it'self out of a dive?
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I've always found that if a plane is in a dive I have to pull back on the stick for a moment to return the model to level flight. When it's in level flight I can let go of the controlls and (if properly trimmed) she'll continue in straight and level flight.
(sorry for interrupting)
according to basic aerodynamics,
plane trimmed for straight and level flight at given air speed
will recover from a dive as it's air speed increases - increase of speed will cause increase of a lift.
whether it has enough altitude is another question :(
just my 2c.
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WWWOOOooo,............HEAVY ALERT! :shock:
Aerodynamic theory,.........Increase in air speed causes increase in lift (and drag)
I'm afraid that's all far toooooo complicated for a simpleton like me Dennis.
I was just telling my friend Luke what I had experienced from flying the same model of plane.
I leave all the testicle stuff to people like you who understand it! :clap:
Keith
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I usually set up my scale type models to be slightly nose heavy, so in a 45 degree dive they will gently pull out by themselves. For more aero stuff I try get it neutral. I'm only talking about gliders here.
Usually a nose heavy glider will pull out and a tail heavy glider will steepen it's dive which can be a little scary! :shock: :shock:
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Hey there,
Very quick answer, changing nappies duty ! :D
Luke, if you put your glider in a 45 degrees dive, and release the stick, if he go more down, your CG is too backward.
If he goes up, CG is too forward...
Idealy, the glider should recover slowly from the dive...
Of course, for a sport glider, aerobatic ones should stay in the 45 degrees dive (neutral..) etc etc...
So, for me, and as the test shows, you need to put a bit of lead on the nose, and try again...
Changing the incidence, up to a certain point, will only change the flying attitude of the glider, that's all.
As I said, CG and incidence goes both together...
Find the correct CG, Incidence will not matter.
Like the guys who always put a piece of wood on the stab to change the incidence on a mouldy, when the issue certainly come from an incorrect CG.
You should see Marcel Guyang changing the incidence of his F3F models putting whatever incidence, and fly like nothing ever changed on his machine by just adjusting the CG... After this demonstration, well, you simply open your eyes on this Incidence/CofG relation...
Fred
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I'd been understanding Luke's term of "dive" to mean a straight vertical decent.
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wow, jeez lads thanks alot. i seem to have opened up an aerodynamical can of worms here :lol:
ok.... The Facts:
when pushed into a 45+ degree dive she keeps going straight with no hint of coming up, AND doesnt tuck under either.
she is at the stated c.g. 4 1/2 inches from the l.e.
she is also a heavy bird 3 1/4 pound weight recomended weight is approx 21/2 - 2/3/4 pound weight
the only other thing im thinking is that, when fitting the horiz stab i had to do a little bit of filling (because it was very tight) therefore ,did i unknowns to my self change the angle of incidence?????
and if i did will tipping the wing down decreasing the angle of incidence by say 1 or 2 degree , how will that effect flight e.g handling AND c.g.
Add that to the pot :D
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Short answer,
Handling same, flight attitude changes, CofG changes.
Fred
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So there's your answer Luke. And for your info, my Phase 6 weighs exactly the same as yours, 3.25lbs (52ozs) :clap:
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Thank you all very much for all your input :clap: . so the short version is that i can play away with the incidence , but she will still handle the same :oops:
i weighed the amount of lead needed to balance her aswell does it seem excessive at 100 grms ?it just seems alot to me
ill just keep playing around with the rates until im happy(ish)
thanks again lads
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You're welcome :D
Most important anyway, is that you are happy with the way your machine fly/handle.
As for the incidence, of course, all that is up to a certain extend (even if you can be surprised how far you can go into the incidence before you have something that fly really badly). :D
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I needed more than 100grms to balance mine Luke, and that's with a 1800mA battery in the nose. :wink:
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I needed more than 100grms to balance mine Luke, and that's with a 1800mA battery in the nose. :wink:
:?: Battery pack fully charged or not ?
Not the same weight... :mrgreen:
I'm far away already, don't look for me... 8-[
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I needed more than 100grms to balance mine Luke, and that's with a 1800mA battery in the nose. :wink:
I'm the same. I think I needed 300g to balance my Ruby.
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thanks again lads,
i think i will have to revisit the test flight, ive been tinkering around with the rates, ive the rates reduced to about 50 % in both aileron and elevator.
to try and tame her down abit
and im now waiting patiently for the next test flight.
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Hey Luke,
Do you have expo as well ?
I always put 30% on elevator as a start, smooth your flying... (I never use Dual Rate)
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hi fred, well i thought i might try that first anyways, im not a big fan of expo . i think my problem is that im trying to turn a slope racer into a floater. :lol:
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For your info Luke...................
I've just been repairing my Phase following a rather poor showing of controlled crashing on Sunday. :oops:
I took the chance to weigh all be ballast in the nose of the model.
Turns out that including the battery, the ballast comes out at 248grms.
K.
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hi keith, sorry to hear bout your prang. hope there wasnt too much damage, was it C.G. related ???
im still waiting to test fly my own one since modifying the fuselage.
and totally unrelated: i have an O.S. 46la that wont behave aswell :lol:
will she fly again keith????
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Hi Luke,
No the prang had nothing to do with CoG. It was just a case of extreemly high winds. One of the aileron servos was pulled out of it's "socket" in the wing. :( And the plane blew back over the ridge.
All repaired now, flying again tomorrow. :D (Saturday)
Have you thought any more of possibly going to the Cork fly-in? (You know you want to!) :wink:
As for your O.S.
I haven't any experience of two stroke aero engine I'm afraid. (I fly electric) But I've a lot of motorcycle two stroke knowledge. On the basis that all 2S engines work on the same laws of physics,.........assuming the obvious things like clean carb, good glow plug, and no loose nuts and bolts, I'd say it sounds like you have a gas leak in the primary pressure chamber. (Crankcase)
Thats why the mixture is getting weak and causing the problem of leaning out and overheating.
On the bikes we'd make up a mixture of washing up liquid and water and brush it all around the crankcase /carb manifold joints/ crankshaft seals. Then run the engine and see if any of the joints "blow bubbles"
That might be a bit harder to do with a spinning prop unless you could shield the engine from the prop wash for a few moments.
Don't know if that's any help Luke?
K.
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thats good keith im glad its just a minor prang, although any prang causing damage can be a pain, :x
yeah my 46 la , i was looking at the manual for it i think tuning it may call for a tacho, its just funny cos all the other os engines i had were fine , i never had a problem tuning them.
the manual says a 46 should drive an 11x6 prop i think i will try a10x6 or an 11x5 first just to be sure , ill definitely keep the leakage in the crank case in mind aswell. how is that fixed ?? tighten the bolts??
im sorry im not very good with engines and stuff :oops:
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Well Luke,.........here comes the bad news. If you have got a crankcase leak, (either through a leaking seal or sometimes a small crack in the crank casing) then really it calls for a new gasket or seal to be fitted. (Or in the case of a cracked casing..........a new casing!)
I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news :(
Like I said in my previous posting, I have no experience of aero engines, but I can't see how changing prop size would help you tune in an engine. The prop is simply a "load" for the engine to turn, and if you've not had this problem with any other engine then clearly there's a unique problem with this engine.
I understand from Ralph that there's a model shop in Cork. If you're feeling out of your depth maybe he could fix it for you. (At a price)
Of course the real solution is to remove the engine from the equation all together.
GO GLIDING! :clap: :clap:
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i think you might be on to something there , i even tried 15% fuel to try and get it to run better................. but alas no it was still the same ,
and as regards gliding , thats one of the reasons i took it up becouse , sometimes you just get pissed off with engines :evil:
i bought it off a guy with a shop outside ennis , ill take it back and let him look it over.
MY PHASE 6 : I STILL havent got around to test flying it yet , with D.O.E tests and the like.
as regards the fly -in ill have to see, my circumstances have changed ,
but, yes, i would like to go :)
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hey hey !! im back, i was lucky enough to have the phase 6 test flown in both light and heavyish winds. first of all i dialled in abot 45 % expo in both the ailerons and elevator, that helped an awful lot , can still suprise you but a vast improvement, i was then thinking of turning my rates waaaaay down but thought better of it ( there might come a day where i might need them) so im reasonably happy again
how are you getting on with the repairs on your one keith????
do you think the phase 6 prefers light conditions, i think mine does :lol:
or mabey its me :D
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Hey, Good Man Luke :clap:
Very glad to hear your Phase 6 is starting to behave it'self.
Expo is definintely the answer. I wouldn't be without it, certainly not with a new plane anyway.
Don't know if you will find this but I've found that with time you can begin to reduce the amount of expo you use. I'm down to about 15% on aileron and elevator now and none on rudder. But I would advise you to do it a few % at a time. (maybe 5% at a time) As I see it, you gain nothing by making dramitic reductions other than the risk of getting caught out and the plane getting damaged again. :cry:
You might like to try using dual rates. I use low rate for take off's and landings, and high rate when she's way up in the lift zone. Just an idea Luke.
Have you tried any aerobatics with her yet? (You'll find she's very good at them)
Mine is in the air again. Can't remember what I had to repair the last time I told you about her, but she's spending less and less time in the workshop now and more in the air.
Strange you say your's flys in light conditions. I have great difficulty flying mine in much less than 20Km/h. She just keeps stalling. But that could be me. I've never been very good in light lift conditions.
I prefer to put 400grms of lead in the wing saddle area and launch her into a 50 - 60Km/h wind. She's very fast! WWwwweeeeee :lol:
I shot a movie of mine the other day, not sure how to upload it though.
(When it comes to computers I a bit of a Geek. Or an I a Nerd? I'm not sure :( )
K.
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Hey Mr K.
Youtube or vimeo is your friend.
Vimeo is better in the way that if the video is done using a DV or HD camera it retains better the quality. Youtube cuts the quality a bit.
Still the forum as a feature to include Ytube videos so that gives him some advantage.
If you need more specific help feel free to ping me.
Nando
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Well Nado I've taken your advise and uploaded the video to Vimeo, or at least I think I have :?:
I got an email telling me I'd uploaded it, but infact I can't play it. (I just get a blank screen :shock: ) May be my pc is too old.
Here's the link http://www.vimeo.com/4369918 (It's called Faze 6 Flite)
[youtube]http://www.vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=4369918[/youtube]
K.
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Hi Keith,
Video link fixed :D
Like the music !
Hit me !!!! :lol: :P
God you are getting good at this piloting thing ! :clap:
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Thanks for the link Fred,
I still can't get anything, :cry: Just a blank screen with a filling task bar at the bottom, but when the task bar is full....still no picture. Like I said, mine is a very old pc. (Steam powered,...has a coal fired boiler in the back of it! :lol: )
As for the flying,........ooohhhh...... my fingers really don't want to type this :( but I have to admit..........mmmmmmm...........eeeeerrrrr.......I was "flying" the camera. Some old "has-been" called Joe was flying the model. :D There, I've told everyone, Dam! :(
K.
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:roll: Ah Alright, Joe was flying the model !
Average flying so... :P
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well keith, just saw ur vid , very good ,bet it was windy that day :lol:
yeah like yourself i find i have a nice bit of fun with her at about 10 mph winds , believe it or not she is flyable to 4 or 5 mph depending on the slope,
MY TOP TIP:
if you want to see whats shes like in light conditions , you can probably do this in your flaps mode, droop ailerons to about 10 degrees (no more)for normal flight mode , and wait for a steady wind of about 5 mph and unload ur ballast box. throw her off and enjoy :D
Warning : be VERY carefull with your stick movements, easy does it, likened to milking a mouse :lol:
yeah ive tried areobatics with her , loops, immelmanns ,split s ect im working on the stall turn at the mo , rudder isnt very effective :?
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God you are getting good at this piloting thing ! :clap:
:roll: Ah Alright, Joe was flying the model !
Average flying so... :P
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Keith they take some time to process the video, checking if it's not something..uh..odd!
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Wow what great flying :D :D
That was me was it?? :? :?
Was being gentle. You've got to take it easy with another mans baby :D :D
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Joe Wrote
You've got to take it easy with another mans baby
Pitty you didn't think of that when you busted the wing tip off of my easyglider Joe! :lol: (It was the same day you flew your ASH into the valley floor. Remember?)
Luke wroteeasy does it, likened to milking a mouse
Luke, I've seen many strange things in my life, after all, I'm older than God. But milking a mouse!! :shock: You must have VERY small fingers :lol:
(Thanks for the tips on flying my Phase in light conditions. :wink: )
Nando, it's working fine now. Problem was I needed to upgrade my Flash Player :oops:
K.
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Your a cruel man Keith dragging up those memories again. :cry: :cry: I have to say in my defense. I've rarely flown a model into the ground. I have watch on as they have ended up there alright.
As for your EasyGlider well that was down to a bad launch! :D
anyway this is way off topic
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yeah no prob keith , i have one on you tube , flying my phase 6 its not as good as that but it may be worth a look ,
if you type in " on board with phase 6"
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Luke, I can only find one called "slope soaring with phase 6" I'm not sure if that's your one. The scenery looks very Irish but there is a snap shot of the pilot, and he's quite good looking! :shock: So I'm not sure if it's your video or not :wink:
Did the camera upset the CG very much. Good landing, coming straight out of a turn. I'm very impressed :clap: And a very smooth flight,.....do you give lessions :)
K.
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yeah, thats my video alright :lol:
the phone was attatched to the phase 6 with rubber bands and a prayer :lol:
it was quite windy when i did it , and she did fly a little sluggish alright , the phone was just ahead of the wing seat so c.g. was fine.
as for the landing ....... that seems to be to be the best way (lacking flaps or spoileron) and using rudder and elevator to cause drag to land, as you can imagine it can get exciting :lol:
as for the glide in , theres a good chance of me being around for that , :D
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" hello hello hello , is there anybody in there? , just nod if you can hear he , is there anyone at home? " <Pink Floyd>
hello keith hows things???
have you flown the phase 6 recently or any other exotic machine? :D
flew the phase 6 just two days ago , first time since the tountinna glide in,
it was very nice :D
was up at the bray air display , it was very good , eddie goggins was something else Barnstorming is alive and well :lol:
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Com'on now,...I hear you're feeling down,...I can ease your pain and get you on your feet again............ <More Pink Floyd>
Well Luke, you have me at a disadvantage regarding Eddie Goggins. :?: I have to admit I’ve never heard of him,…………..so who is he?
You mentioned the Toutinna fly in. Which one was that? I was at the MACI one but I don’t remember seeing you there,………..I’m sure I’d have recognised your Phase 6 by it’s colour scheme. :)
As for my Phase‘,…………………. I grew to really like it. In fact it became my favourite plane. :D However it took a lot of knocks through experimenting with different manoeuvres (They have to be done! :lol: ) and general heavy landings. :oops: So much so that it became a bit of a “patchwork quilt” of repairs.
Each repair left the airframe a little bit more out of alignment till I was having to use almost full trim adjustment to keep the plane in the air! :roll:
Then, finally, I made an error of judgment while performing a loop too close to the ridge and the plane went nose into a rock and the fuse split in two. :!: (The wings are still fine surprisingly enough!)(Any good to you are they?….twin servos!!)
So………….I’m in the middle of building another one. Going to have Full House Wing with this one. With flap and aileron mixing when in flight, (So, in effect, I have full length ailerons) and then remove that mix and have flaps and ailerons separate to perform ‘Crow’ landings, for nice, gentle touch downs. :D Well,……………….that’s the theory any how!
The wings are mostly done, servo holes are cut, LE & TE are fitted, I’m just about to cut the ailerons and flaps. The two halves of the fuse are ready to be stuck together, and the tail fin is ready to be fitted.
So, that’s the story here.
You coming to the ISR Fly-In in September? Com’ on, no excuses,..... say, “Yes Keith.” :clap: You know you want to!
K.
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jeez keith sorry bout your phase 6 , but fair play to you for getting back on the horse again :D are you going to do the same colour scheme again??? eddi goggins ..... he flies an extra 300 (full size), theres some footage of him on you tube doing the air races , the knife edge passes along the beach were something else.
tountinna fly in , what happened keith was that i was set to go but as it happened i had one or two things to do , it took a little longer than expected , but when i did get to go up i cought the tail end of the fly in i arrived about half 3 - 4 pm , got two flights in before the heavy showers arrived , it was nice too see what the other guys are flying