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Title: 787 Dreamliner PSS
Post by: JohnPearson on November 16, 2010, 22:36:05 PM
Hi Guys

Well, another PSS for next season, has just arrived today in the workshop, thanks to Richard. The model is the PSS version of the Windrider Boeing 787 Dreamliner, an all foam quick build airliner rc model.

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/JohnPearson/boeing%20767%20062s.jpg-500x500.jpg)

Wing span: 1.65m

I will update this build along with the other b57 build soon! Here are a few pics after 10 mins out of the box!!

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/JohnPearson/CIMG2091.JPG)

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/JohnPearson/CIMG2101.JPG)

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/JohnPearson/CIMG2105.JPG)

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/JohnPearson/CIMG2104.JPG)

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/JohnPearson/CIMG2094.JPG)

Johnp
Title: 787 Dreamliner PSS
Post by: billscottni on November 16, 2010, 22:48:39 PM
Jammy B*****r :cry:
Title: 787 Dreamliner PSS
Post by: Happy Days on November 16, 2010, 22:49:26 PM
Oh, a very neat job John. What livery will you put it in?
Aren’t you tempted to fit a couple of ducted fans in it,……just to see what happens! :twisted:

Incidentally, I noticed there’s a plate on the wall of your garage/workshop with the word John on it. Is that in case you forget who you are? :lol:  :lol:

Keith
Title: 787 Dreamliner PSS
Post by: JohnPearson on November 20, 2010, 18:51:08 PM
Well I started building the 787 today, with the wings. I have added flaps which are not shown on the plan, for slower landings. I may add a split flap system like on the full size aircraft :?: need to think adout it. I have also added carbon rods to the outer part of the wings and lined the control surfaces with balsa, this will make the wing stronger, yet will still allow the wing to flex like the full size 787 wing in flight.

 (http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/JohnPearson/wings%20787%20windrider.JPG)

Pic of the inner wing flap.

I will add more info soon!!
Title: 787 Dreamliner PSS
Post by: andrew wallace on November 20, 2010, 21:41:48 PM
:D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D
keep er lite john  :clap:  :clap:
Title: 787 Dreamliner PSS
Post by: Alan_Perse on November 21, 2010, 14:36:40 PM
Looks Great John  :D  :D  :D. Are you going to paint it in Qantas colours.
Title: 787 Dreamliner PSS
Post by: JohnPearson on November 23, 2010, 23:04:51 PM
Hi Alan

I would like to use a local airline, however none have signed up for the 787 aircraft yet.I found a nice scheme 'Icelandair' which looks good

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/JohnPearson/14752sheet.gif)

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/JohnPearson/787aircraft.jpg)

not sure what do you think?
Title: 787 Dreamliner PSS
Post by: Fred on November 23, 2010, 23:46:14 PM
I think this is really looking good John !  :clap:  :clap:
Title: 787 Dreamliner PSS
Post by: billscottni on November 24, 2010, 07:39:31 AM
Nice, go for it
Title: 787 Dreamliner PSS
Post by: Ron on November 24, 2010, 08:37:39 AM
Yeah, like the gold engines  8)
Title: 787 Dreamliner PSS
Post by: JohnPearson on February 06, 2011, 21:00:31 PM
Hi all!

Well not to cold this weekend, and with no wind here in the north, I got back to some building on the 787. I finish the wings with solar film and glass tape and used trim line for the panel lines. I strenghten the wings slightly with ply spars in the middle, and strips of carbon rod along the leading edge.

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/JohnPearson/787wings.JPG)
Wings ready for the engines to be fitted.

Hopefully I will the model ready for the PSS at Big L :?:
Title: 787 Dreamliner PSS
Post by: Happy Days on February 07, 2011, 07:51:25 AM
As always John, a lovely looking model coming along there. :clap:  (I don’t know how you do it :?: )

Looking forward to seeing it, (and you) down here at the PSS meeting. March, isn’t it?

Sorry to hear you guys up north have no flying winds. Here in Wexford we’ve had constant ’Serious’ winds of 80 - 100Km/h all weekend :D , and it’s still blowing a gale this Monday morning. Only problem has been that Big L. has disappeared under a permanent blanket of cloud. :cry:  I’ve spent the weekend in a state of tears and grief….All that lovely lift, and I haven’t been able to use it. :cry:  :cry:  Oh,…..life is so cruel!

Keith
Title: 787 Dreamliner PSS
Post by: billscottni on February 07, 2011, 08:05:28 AM
John & I had planned to fly this weekend, but here in the North Saturday was very wet and Sunday the winds were very light & SSW,  the one direction we're struggling for a hill!.

Like John I spent the afternoon in the garage and did a little more on the foamcutter.

As I said in another thread, really struggling for enthusiasm at the moment due to lack of flying and other problems. Still planning to come down in March though :D
Title: 787 Dreamliner PSS
Post by: Happy Days on February 07, 2011, 08:18:00 AM
Yeah, commiserations Bill, you’ve got no wind, and can’t fly, we’ve got masses of wind ( :shock: ), …..and can’t fly.
They do say, “Life’s a bitch,……………….And then you marry one!
Title: 787 Dreamliner PSS
Post by: billscottni on February 07, 2011, 11:24:20 AM
Quote from: "Happy Days"
“Life’s a bitch,……………….And then you marry one!


Oh so TRUE.  :x

Some people seem to get it right though. A few of the wives up here actively encourage their husbands flying!
Title: 787 Dreamliner PSS
Post by: JohnPearson on February 07, 2011, 13:00:02 PM
I am one of the lucky one's, my wife lets me get on with it :lol:  :lol:
Title: 787 Dreamliner PSS
Post by: Happy Days on February 07, 2011, 15:27:25 PM
In all fairness, the only complaint I have about my misses is that she won’t let me have sex with other women! :(
Title: 787 Dreamliner PSS
Post by: andrew wallace on February 07, 2011, 18:41:08 PM
:lol:  :lol:  :clap:  :clap:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: 787 Dreamliner PSS
Post by: billscottni on February 07, 2011, 18:55:01 PM
Quote from: "Happy Days"
In all fairness, the only complaint I have about my misses is that she won’t let me have sex with other women! :(


Would you let her have sex with other men? :?:  :wink:
Title: 787 Dreamliner PSS
Post by: JohnPearson on February 10, 2011, 22:17:42 PM
A little more done on the 787 tonight. I need the engines to be able to take the full force of landing, therefore I filled the foam and used epoxy/glass to form a hard shell around the engine pods. Next a coat of paint, and that should finish the engines, ready to be installed onto the wings!!

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/JohnPearson/787%20engines.JPG)

I found a wee bargain at Lidl today, 400ml cans of clear and coloured gloss Lacquer for £2.49 a can. I used the some tonight and it worked fine, however it is not great on foam, but if you paint with water based paint, the clear lacquer can be used over it to produce a high gloss finish!.

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/JohnPearson/paint.JPG)

Gloss lacquer at £2.49 a can from Lidl

That's it for now happy landings! :lol:
Title: 787 Dreamliner PSS
Post by: Fred on February 11, 2011, 11:23:44 AM
This is looking good Mr Pearson!  :clap:  :clap:
Title: 787 Dreamliner PSS
Post by: JohnPearson on February 11, 2011, 22:51:17 PM
Another few hours spent on the 787 tonight, with the tailplane covered, the fin covered and the engine pods covered and painted.

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/JohnPearson/787tailplane.JPG)

The tailplane was first re-inforced with glass tape, then covered in solar film and finished with silver trim line.

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/JohnPearson/787fin.JPG)

The fin was covered in brown paper, then covered in solar film. The brown paper adds extra strength to the fin with little weight and gives a nice finish and a good base for the film.

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/JohnPearson/787engines.JPG)

The engine pods where covered in solar film , with foam paint added. The pods will take alot of force when landing, therefore I added cardon rods,pushed inside the foam to give them extra strength.

Next I will get the engines finished and painted, then finish the fuselage.

Happy landings
Title: 787 Dreamliner PSS
Post by: andrew wallace on February 12, 2011, 17:21:54 PM
:clap:  :clap:  :clap:

good stuff john, do you think i could tow you up  :?:
Title: 787 Dreamliner PSS
Post by: billscottni on February 12, 2011, 18:00:19 PM
Don't see why not Andrew, it should be fairly light.
Difficulty will be fitting a hook to it  :?:
Title: 787 Dreamliner PSS
Post by: JohnPearson on February 13, 2011, 22:49:08 PM
Hi Andrew, thats a good idea, I will fit a release hook later onto the 787 when I have her flying off the slope.

I done a little work tonight on the model,the port engine is now finished, however the paint work is a little poor because I had a problem with the silver paint, which reacted with the undercoat and had to be scraped off and a new undercoat applied.The surface of the engines are a bit rough, but in the air you will not notice them. Here's a few pics:..

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/JohnPearson/787engine.JPG)
Close up of the port engine

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/JohnPearson/787engines2.JPG)
Engine fitted to the port wing

That's it for now, happy landings
Title: 787 Dreamliner PSS
Post by: billscottni on February 14, 2011, 06:50:35 AM
That'll be invisible in the air  :clap:
Title: 787 Dreamliner PSS
Post by: Alan_Perse on February 14, 2011, 09:14:05 AM
Quote from: "JohnPearson"
however the paint work is a little poor because I had a problem with the silver paint, which reacted with the undercoat and had to be scraped off and a new undercoat applied.


I know how that feels. Looking good  :D
Title: 787 Dreamliner PSS
Post by: JohnPearson on February 15, 2011, 22:25:59 PM
Hi Guys

I finished the wings tonight and started on the fuselage. The fuselage has been given a complete coat of light filler to remove the dents and gaps. This will be sanded down and then glassed this weekend hopefully :?:  Some  photos on the progress so far:

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/JohnPearson/787wings%20completed.JPG)
Wings with engines and leading edge trims fitted

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/JohnPearson/787fuselage.JPG)
Fuselage with light filler applied

Happy landings..
Title: 787 Dreamliner PSS
Post by: billscottni on February 16, 2011, 08:24:36 AM
Looking good John  :clap:

Don't forget the mask when you're sanding that back  :shock:  :cry:
Title: 787 Dreamliner PSS
Post by: Alan_Perse on February 16, 2011, 09:07:00 AM
What kind of filler are you using John?
Title: 787 Dreamliner PSS
Post by: bearpjk on February 16, 2011, 09:34:07 AM
Hi John
your 787 is looking pretty good,I like the finish on your wings.
Have you attached the engine nacelles to the wing with velcro ??

cya
Title: 787 Dreamliner PSS
Post by: JohnPearson on February 16, 2011, 22:57:38 PM
Hi all

Let me first answer Alan and Peter's questions,

1. The filler I use is a Dulux ICI light filler, You can get it in B&Q for about £7.00 for a big tub, great for foam.

2. The engines will be held on with elastic bands as per the plans from Windrider models, it may work time will tell :?:

Finished of the tail feathers tonight, with home made decals, produced from computer paper and clear tape. It is not perfect, however this model is a sports scale or stand off scale 787 and the decals are cheap to make.


(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/JohnPearson/787icelandair.JPG)
Tail with Icelandair logo

I put together the wings and fuselage tonight to give you an idea of how the 787 will look, should get the fuselage finished next week.

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/JohnPearson/windrider787.JPG)

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/JohnPearson/windrider787pss.JPG)

Well that's me for tonight, happy with the progress so far, can't wait to get this little jet onto the slopes
Title: 787 Dreamliner PSS
Post by: andrew wallace on February 17, 2011, 14:26:15 PM
:clap:  :clap:  :clap:  :D

good stuff john
Title: 787 Dreamliner PSS
Post by: JohnPearson on February 19, 2011, 22:43:43 PM
Well no flying today, so I spent the day working on the fuselage of the 787. I sanded down the filler and than applied the glass cloth in one large section along the fuselage. I buy glass cloth in 10m lenghts so this was a good way to reduce the joints between the cloth. I used the R106 epoxy which gives a good finish, however I will have to sometime make a vacuum bag machine which will produce a professional smooth finish!.

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/JohnPearson/787windriderfuselage.JPG)
Fuselage in it's jig,drying after the glass cloth and epoxy was applied

I will try to get the undercoat applied tomorrow if surface is dry, however that's it for now, happy landings
Title: 787 Dreamliner PSS
Post by: JohnPearson on March 02, 2011, 23:14:01 PM
Hi all

Well now that the cold has gone and I am able to get back into the workshop again, I have nearly finished the fuselage of the 787. The painting as usual, did not come out as smooth as i would have liked, however, when you are working with foam, it is very hard to great a good finish with glass and paint.

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/JohnPearson/787%20slopesoaring%20model.JPG)

787 in icelandair colours, still to add the main logo on side of fuselage.

The bottom of the fuselage was done with solar flim, and this was also a pain in the a*?, but the finish is fine for a sports model. All the servos are fitted and just the bottom wing panel to be fitted, then c&g done, all ready for Big L weekend, then, fingers crossed a test flight :?:  :?:

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/JohnPearson/windrider%20787%20pss.JPG)

Happy Landings
Title: 787 Dreamliner PSS
Post by: billscottni on March 03, 2011, 08:12:03 AM
Looking good JP.
 :clap:
Now all you need to think about is how to protect it while travelling to and from events!  :?:
Title: 787 Dreamliner PSS
Post by: andrew wallace on March 03, 2011, 09:01:38 AM
:clap:  :clap:  :clap:
looking forwards to seeing it next weekend  :D
Title: 787 Dreamliner PSS
Post by: JohnPearson on March 05, 2011, 23:25:47 PM
Icelandair 787 cleared for take off! yes I finished the windrider 787 today ready for Big L next weekend. I had to just, add the large logos to the sides of the fuselage and complete the belly pan under the wings. Fingers crossed we get the lift needed to fly this bird.

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/JohnPearson/icelandair%20787%20rc%20glider.JPG)

What's next for the building board  :?:
Title: 787 Dreamliner PSS
Post by: Happy Days on March 06, 2011, 08:34:10 AM
Hmmmm,…….very smart John. I like the clean lines of the livery. :clap:  Look forward to seeing it in the air next weekend. :D  (Only hope the weather is going to be kind to us. :( )

Just explain to me how this bird is going to land, :?:  John………surely those engines are going to be ripped of the wings, aren’t they? :!:

As for your next project, I’ll email you a list of models I’d like you to build for me,…..Up for it? :lol:

Keith
Title: 787 Dreamliner PSS
Post by: JohnPearson on March 06, 2011, 11:35:03 AM
Hi Keith

The engines should come off on landing? they are held on with elastic bands and break away from the wings according to 'Ming' from Windrider models. I used a different system on the Big B52, so I will see if this method works. Fingers crossed for the winds and weather for next weekend!

As for the next project, I will have to finish the repairs on my 1/3 scale Tigermoth which I crashed last year. :cry:

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/JohnPearson/tigermoth-1.jpg)
Tigermoth at 2010 scale N.I. championships
Title: 787 Dreamliner PSS
Post by: Happy Days on March 06, 2011, 14:50:09 PM
Like the tiger moth, :D

 I assume it’s electrically powered with full sound card and speakers? to get those extra points in the comps!
Title: 787 Dreamliner PSS
Post by: Richard Boyd on March 08, 2011, 19:54:35 PM
Hi John, your 737 really looks the business !!!!!!!!!!!
Health to fly

Looking forward to this weekend at Mt. L

Richard
Title: 787 Dreamliner PSS
Post by: major incident on December 23, 2011, 16:33:03 PM
Did it fly????
I'm building one and was inspired by your build!
Title: 787 Dreamliner PSS
Post by: JohnPearson on December 23, 2011, 20:32:23 PM
Hi Major

Yes the 787 flys great check out :

http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1014&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=40

Also : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss6alOLhTl8, maiden flight, c of g was a little off, but the 787 flys smooth now,

The only problem with this model is the engine pods, they are to weak and break on landing, I strenghtened the pods with strips of carbon, works great now.

Enjoy the model Major, it flys well and looks soooo cool in the air!

johnP