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Title: RETROPLANE 2010 - Wasserkuppe - Germany
Post by: Fred on November 23, 2009, 16:01:09 PM
Guys, that's it, we can now officially announce that Retroplane 2010 will be held on the famous slopes of the Wasserkuppe !

Thanks to Stephan's hard work, next year's Retroplane event is going to be another "must go" !

Ok guys, time to get organised !!  :D

All here : http://www.retroplane.net/retroplane2010/

PS : please note the new system to book a place in the meeting (fill a word document, and send it by post to Vincent), this is to avoid the places to be filled with people with a machine that do not enter the meeting criterias or being actually build and might not be finished in time for the event. It is time consuming to deal with such request, so we made it a little bit harder to register. No more Email booking for the event!
Title: RETROPLANE 2010 - Wasserkuppe - Germany
Post by: Alan_Perse on November 23, 2009, 16:49:10 PM
Sweet. That place is a soaring paradise. Gliding museum, Full size gliding club and model gliders  =P~  =P~  =P~  =P~  :D  :D
Title: RETROPLANE 2010 - Wasserkuppe - Germany
Post by: billscottni on November 23, 2009, 22:07:04 PM
Excellent news, I better get on with building my KA-3, then I can think about the Fafnir :?:  :?:

I've been held up on all my builds building a demo aircraft for the Area to use at shows and exhibitions.Will post some pics soon
Title: RETROPLANE 2010 - Wasserkuppe - Germany
Post by: Fred on February 05, 2010, 13:09:39 PM
Guys, just to let you know, that we have closed the booking down for this year.
You can still register, but you will be on a waiting list, and notified when a spot is freed for you (waiting list is already quiet big....)

Sooo... What is the story for a trip together ? is it still on ? Who is joining ?
I think we need to start to book things as soon as possible, while the prices are still good...

Did a simulation the other night, for a minibus + 3 passenger (just to see the prices...) --> 800 euros return... But need to book a cabin / seat on top of that.
I guess that will be cheaper using something other than a minibus ! But divided by the number of people, that can work really cheap for the crossing...

Any though ? :?:
Title: RETROPLANE 2010 - Wasserkuppe - Germany
Post by: billscottni on February 05, 2010, 13:15:00 PM
I'm still on Fred. If the numbers are low, we might get away with a car. One way or another I'm going, but it would be better craic with a group :D  :D
Title: RETROPLANE 2010 - Wasserkuppe - Germany
Post by: Fred on July 16, 2010, 08:22:09 AM
And back !  :D  (barely)

More comments as soon as I wake up!!
Title: RETROPLANE 2010 - Wasserkuppe - Germany
Post by: Richard Boyd on July 17, 2010, 07:36:21 AM
Hi Fred, how was your trip ?
Have you any pictures ?

Richard
Title: RETROPLANE 2010 - Wasserkuppe - Germany
Post by: Fred on July 17, 2010, 14:47:34 PM
Hey Richard,

Looking at the 800 photos to keep the best ones right now  :D

A great great year ! More later  :D
Title: RETROPLANE 2010 - Wasserkuppe - Germany
Post by: JohnPearson on July 17, 2010, 21:00:22 PM
Welcome back fred, now get a wee cup of tea and relax, then tell us all about it?
Title: RETROPLANE 2010 - Wasserkuppe - Germany
Post by: Happy Days on July 18, 2010, 12:02:30 PM
WE WANT PICTURES!……….. WE WANT PICTURES!…………… WE WANT PICTURES!

WE WANT VIDEOS!………….. WE WANT VIDEOS!……………..WE WANT VIDEOS!
Title: RETROPLANE 2010 - Wasserkuppe - Germany
Post by: VincentB on July 18, 2010, 13:15:31 PM
Hi everyone, I'm just coming back at home
in waiting I make the galery, some photos here and the next pages http://www.retroplane.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=73512#73512
and here
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1273180
http://www.rc-network.de/forum/showthread.php?p=1911939
and in few days...
http://www.kolmanl.info/index.php?show=retroplane_2010_me#retroplane_2010_1
Title: RETROPLANE 2010 - Wasserkuppe - Germany
Post by: Happy Days on July 18, 2010, 14:13:06 PM
Looking at all the people using umbrellas 2010 doesn’t seem so different from 2009!!! :lol:  (Well,…..perhaps a little bit different :?: )

It will take me hours to view all those pictures Vincent. :D

Thank you for posting them, and I’m glad you enjoyed your Retroplane 2010 :clap:

Keith
Title: RETROPLANE 2010 - Wasserkuppe - Germany
Post by: Fred on July 19, 2010, 13:03:26 PM
Alright, so, here we go !  :D

Well, that was a long drive !! Around 1000km accross 3 countries (that's without the Ferry time.. and the storms !  :? ) but when you love, you don't count!  :D

I arrived at base camp on Thursday morning, not really fresh (2 hrs sleep in 2 days!), but a fresh beer (at 9am...) was the sign that I was finally arrived, and that sounded already like a great year !

I'll pass on the camp atmosphere/ambiance etc etc, as you have to live it from the inside !  :P  But that was  great, and I think some photos and videos will soon put a bit more shame on myslef, and on a lot of participants !! Some really really good laughs!  :D  :D

Later that day, I went to the slope... The World famous Wasserkuppe, basically where slope soaring is born ! Very nice place where you can feel the "aviation" atmosphere all over the place !
You are at the slope flying, and 10 metre behind you, you have full size gliders taking off and landing, on your right, on you have the hang-gliders, everybody is talking about one thing, and one thing only :  flying!
You are in your element, you really feel like being at home! Everywhere you look, you can see something flying, and just that, what worth the trip!

Another thing that was worth the trip, was the Wasserkuppe museum. Actually, visited it 3 times ! So much to see ! (full size glider museum photos : http://www.gliderireland.net/index.php/gallery/wasserkuppe-museum-full-size ). You can almost touch all the machines that made history. You also have a workshop, where you can see the guys restoring gliders (that was a Grunau Baby II when we did the visit), chat with them, but also, open cockpits etc etc and tells you stories about the machines in the museum... Great time with really pasionated people!

The Wasserkuppe museum, is also the home of a model museum (Model museum photos : http://www.gliderireland.net/index.php/gallery/wasserkuppe-museum-models ) where you can see all the models that made history in all discipline (free flight, RC, CL etc etc). You can see the first radios, record breaker models, prototypes from manufacturer etc etc... All the techniques, materials used, and for some models, a building lesson !

On the visit front, thanks to a buddy who had to collect spare parts for a KA8 (full size), 4 of us where able to visit the AS factory on the near town of Poppenhausen (a few miles down the Wasserkuppe), and that was a rare occasion to see how they do the big/real stuff, from start to finish! Something is sure, even if everything looks the same (molds, materials etc etc), is that we complicate everything ! For full size, they really uses really simple tools and techniques to setup/build a glider ! Some I will remember and use for building scale gliders. Photos of the AS factory here : http://www.gliderireland.net/index.php/gallery/as-factory-visit

The meeting now... Well, as usual, that was great !
Flying conditions were a bit difficult as we had no wind most of the week end, but that did not stopped us to launch the machines anyway ! That's the spirit! Launch (well, if you wanted to) knowing you were going down (and with 38 degrees on the slope, coming back was a bit of a torture ! Especially on the slope we used on the Saturday!), but I think everybody tried, some making really good flight (the ones with gliders that were not looking like trucks, like the Condor etc etc).
As for me, I had 2 bad launches that ended up in the slope, the 3rd launch saw me doind a decent flight seeing the conditions, but had to abort it as we noticed a flutter in the right rudder. Landed a few metres from me, no big walk for me. Flutter was due to a fix of one of the V tail joiner, not rigid enough... Fixed with a piece of tape !  :wink:
And for all the machines, nothing badly broken (the valley was not really friendly with trees, holes etc etc on the Saturday's slope), and prove that the piloting skills of all the pilots is really high !  :clap:
A few bad photos of Retroplane 2010 : http://www.gliderireland.net/index.php/gallery/retroplane-2010 but better check the Retroplane forum / album for much better ones ! (I'll keep the post updated as soon as Vincent finished the hard work to check the thousand of photos!  :clap:  )

Another highlight for me, was my encounter, and the nice chat that followed with Mr HQ himself ! That guy is a brain ! Anyway, I had to start by shaking his hand, and just said "thank you"! Thanks you for the work he did, especially for the gliding community... Uwe Gewalt was laughing... Yep, that's Retroplane, the Wasserkuppe, and a bunch of "celebrities". Told Mr Gewalt about my ASH25 on the workbench, and got some nice adviced.
Later on, Prof. Quabeck called me at the slope, and to my surprise gave me his contact details as he want to come and visit me in Ireland!  :shock:
We'll see that for next year! :D

Another highlight for me, was that I put the shame twice on the locals  :P  Long story, and that will be certainly better related on the Retroplane forum! Basically, I'm not that bad!  :P  (told you, you should have come!!)

Oh yes, we also had a tornado at the slope!! Yep, a real one (photos on all the newspaper the next day). Really impressive! But more impressive I think for the the last German that was in the bar, was to see 25 Frenchies cheering up big time each time something was blown away by the wind with pint of beers and loud noise ! Still really impressive.. And lucky too I guess!

Anyway, al in all, a great year, and I will definitively go back to the Wasserkuppe !
I'll post more stuff as the ideas/stuff I remember are coming back!
Title: RETROPLANE 2010 - Wasserkuppe - Germany
Post by: Peter on July 19, 2010, 19:43:59 PM
Super account Fred - loved the pictures of the AS factory.  Fascinating!
Title: RETROPLANE 2010 - Wasserkuppe - Germany
Post by: JohnPearson on July 19, 2010, 22:48:04 PM
Thanks Fred, great write up and great photos. I wish that I could have travelled to this event, I missed out big time this year!!
Title: RETROPLANE 2010 - Wasserkuppe - Germany
Post by: Happy Days on July 20, 2010, 06:07:25 AM
Less of an account, more of an essay, that would have taken me a couple of days just to type it all out! :roll:

Well done Fred. :clap:  Shame about the lack of wind, but then there was always the beer and the food. :lol:
(Only a man from France would travel halfway across Europe to a flying event,…………and take a photo’s of plates of food. Ha! The devil is in the detail!! :wink: )

Thanks Fred.

K.
p.s. I didn’t see any Hortens in the photos. Was Lothar at the event this year?
Title: RETROPLANE 2010 - Wasserkuppe - Germany
Post by: orionis on July 20, 2010, 12:22:10 PM
Hello,
I put some other pictures of the Retroplane meeting on my website (http://orionis1.free.fr/planeur/retroplane_2010/index_retroplane_2010.html).
Fabrice
Title: RETROPLANE 2010 - Wasserkuppe - Germany
Post by: Fred on July 21, 2010, 08:07:17 AM
Thanks all  :D

Well, this account only reflect 10% of what I actually did / happened during this week !
Something is sure, Wasserkuppe, I will come back !

I also came back, as usual, with loads of new projects for next year  :D
And a 1/3.5 Pilatus fuselage (thanks Fred  :clap: ) that should keep me busy after I finish my ASH25 (work in progress, just the wings to do now).

A few new photos were posted on the Retroplane forum. No shame !  O:)
Title: RETROPLANE 2010 - Wasserkuppe - Germany
Post by: Fred on July 23, 2010, 09:40:08 AM
Small video of the AS factory visit  :D

All here : http://www.gliderireland.net/images/videos/ASFactory.wmv
21Mb

 :D
Title: RETROPLANE 2010 - Wasserkuppe - Germany
Post by: Fred on July 23, 2010, 13:05:48 PM
Report (in French) is now online !!
http://www.retroplane.net/retroplane2010/resume.htm

Thanks Vincent!  :clap:  :clap: