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Gliders => Slope Soaring => Topic started by: Fred on September 28, 2007, 14:47:19 PM
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Hi there,
1 or 2 years ago, we were talking, as a joke, to do the Retroplane meeting in Ireland (being French, living in Ireland, I was teasing a lot about the pubs and the smooth slopes we have around here ! )...
Well, we did not left the idea aside, and finally after checking the feasability, Retroplane 2009 will be held for the first time abroad, and that will be in Ireland.
That give us almost 2 years to get prepared and build a Vintage glider.
More information and booking (limited places) are here :
http://www.retroplane.net/retroplane2009/index-eng.htm
Don't hesitate to contact myself or Vincent if you have any questions regarding the event.
Fred
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That's a great coup for you Fred! Congratulations :clap: !
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And that gives you almost 2 years to build a vintage glider now ! :P :D
So far, only four from Ireland.... :(
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Hmmmm... Maybe I should l get one of your Opel Rak kits... It's a gorgeous plane in the air, I really enjoyed watching it at Mweelin.
The other vintage planes I rather like is of course the old evergreen Minimoa, and the other one is that French plane that I forgot the name of now- it's got a big bubble canopy and a vee tail (one of the Bréguet models).
Never done scale before, but this Retroplane thing seems something special!
Chris
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Yes I agree.
A real coup.
But... I wonder if 2 years is enough time :(
Ron
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VERY good point Ron!
I've just spied a 169" 1/4 scale Minimoa plan for sale on the BMFA site - tempted...........
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Yes I agree.
A real coup.
But... I wonder if 2 years is enough time :(
Ron
If you get one of Freds CNC Scale kits it should not take that long to build.
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Yes, been thinking about Fred's kits.
Well lets see then...
There's 730 days in 2 years, and if I'm awake for 16 hours a day that's 11,680 hours.
Counting eating and 'other' activities as say 5 minutes an hour, and allowing time for doing up old wooden boat, practising the Tenor Sax, sailing old wooden boat, doing web sites for people, playing Badminton, gardening, taking the dog for walks, playing the tin whistle, painting pictures that no-one would ever buy, photography, sorting out neighbour's plumbing, Christmas and new year festivities, visiting elderly relatives, etc. etc. that should leave about 2 seconds per hour free.
So that would make 6.48 hours.
Bit of a tight schedule.
Really interested in this Retroplane thing though.
169" Minimoa?
Hey that's 14 feet.
Have to get a bigger car....
Ron. :lol:
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Cvanscho - that Breguet is the Breguet 901 Choucas. I seem to remember plans were available either in Traplet or Argus mags - RCM&E or Radio Modeller some years ago.. :?
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Hey, Marty, thanks very much for that! I'll check that out!
Chris
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Hi Guys,
If that the Breguet with the V tail, I think you are talking about the Fauvette (905 if I remember... :?: ).
Chris, I have a dxf plan for that one... Simplifiied, but that is a really good base to start something really decent.
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... the Breguet 901 Choucas....
Hello, the Choucas it's the Breguet 906 :wink:
http://www.rcsoaringdigest.com/pdfs/RCSD-2007/RCSD-2007-02.pdf
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Was just looking at the Retroplane 2009 site. There is a guy going to be coming from Australia :shock: :shock:. Its an intercontinental meeting now :D .
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Hi Alan,
Yep, Australia ! :clap:
We go International now ! :wink: :P
But still a very few Irish ! :shock: :(
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But still a very few Irish ! :shock: :(
I guess not may people fly scale, or if they do only glass models and not retro. It can take a lot of work to make a retro model, sure you know yourself.
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Does a Slingsby Skylark 4 (Type 50) count as retro?
(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Ron/Skylark.jpg)
Not sure if they still produce them.
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Hi
the first flight of the Skylark 4 Type 50 was February 1962, therefore it is out of the Rétroplane rules which is fixed at "older than 1960"
Cheers
Stephan
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Hi Ron,
You are building a Skylark ? :D
Unfortunately, as Stephan said, the rule say that the "age" limit for a glider to enter Retroplane is 1960 :(
After this date, gliders are not considered as "Retro".
Fred
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Yep, just about to start.
(See separate post.)
But surely, here in West Cork, time goes much slower than elsewhere, so really 1962 (thanks Stephan) was more like 1956....
No I didn't think that would work.
Worth a try though :lol:
Just have to build something else as well.
What am I saying...? :shock:
Ron
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What is happening to Retroplane 2009?
No posts since April.
I have considered going to Ireland for it.
I have been thinking of building a 3 metre scratch built Kranich II in the livery of a full size one that we flew in the Cork Gliding Club from about 1959 until September 1962, when it was flown into the Irish Sea (deliberately) during the filming of "The Running Man".
Reputedly it was retrieved and sold to a Scottish gliding club, but I can't trace it.
Its earlier history is that it was one of five flying in the UK and it belonged to the Cambridge University Gliding Club. It was supposedly built in Sweden.
Somewhere in my brother's attic in Cork, is a 6" square piece of 1mm ply from the tailplane, with a Luftwaffe certificate of airworthiness stamp dated May 7, 1941 (when I was four days old). I got this during a tailplane rebuild on it, that I worked on in 1961. (premature dropping of two-wheel dolly U/C resulted in the dolly bouncing up and shearing the complete starboard half of the tailplane off).
I was operating an Aldis signal lamp to the winch driver, but he did not stop the tow and they launched to about 800 ft. After release they flew Ok and they did not realize their tailplane was damaged. They got down OK and after landing they said it was sluggish and they thought that the dolly had not released.
If any of the old crew (Noel Barrett, Tommy Kerrigan, Stan Cussen, Peter Otter etc.), have any photos or details of the Kranich, I would love to have them so I can get working on the project. Sadly in the intervening near half century, others have caught their final thermals.
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Hi John,
That's a fascinating story.
Do hope you get the info you require for that project.
Fred:
Do you know (probably do) that a report of Retroplane 2007 appeared in the Vintage Glider Club's magazine 'News' dated 'Spring 2008'.
I just joined the VGC and in my joining pack was that very magazine.
The report was by Chris Williams, and contains many photos one of which is of you with your Opel Rak.
It seems Chris has been persuaded to keep VGC readers up to date with events in the scale glider world.
http://ww.vintagegliderclub.org
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What is happening to Retroplane 2009?
No posts since April.
I have considered going to Ireland for it.
I have been thinking of building a 3 metre scratch built Kranich II in the livery of a full size one that we flew in the Cork Gliding Club from about 1959 until September 1962, when it was flown into the Irish Sea (deliberately) during the filming of "The Running Man".
Reputedly it was retrieved and sold to a Scottish gliding club, but I can't trace it.
Its earlier history is that it was one of five flying in the UK and it belonged to the Cambridge University Gliding Club. It was supposedly built in Sweden.
Somewhere in my brother's attic in Cork, is a 6" square piece of 1mm ply from the tailplane, with a Luftwaffe certificate of airworthiness stamp dated May 7, 1941 (when I was four days old). I got this during a tailplane rebuild on it, that I worked on in 1961. (premature dropping of two-wheel dolly U/C resulted in the dolly bouncing up and shearing the complete starboard half of the tailplane off).
I was operating an Aldis signal lamp to the winch driver, but he did not stop the tow and they launched to about 800 ft. After release they flew Ok and they did not realize their tailplane was damaged. They got down OK and after landing they said it was sluggish and they thought that the dolly had not released.
If any of the old crew (Noel Barrett, Tommy Kerrigan, Stan Cussen, Peter Otter etc.), have any photos or details of the Kranich, I would love to have them so I can get working on the project. Sadly in the intervening near half century, others have caught their final thermals.
Hi John,
Working on the event, quietly ! And we had to prepare this year Retroplane too !
All good now for 2009, we have the location for Base camp :D
An E-mail with all the details will be sent soon to the ones who have booked a spot to the event. :D
Very good subject that the KranichII is ! On my (looonnggg) list of projects !
What type of documentations are you looking for ?
Do a search on the Retroplane (http://www.retroplane.net) website.
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Hi Fred,
Did you get my email about Retroplane?
Ron
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Hi Ron,
Yep, just saw that :D
I'll reply to you tomorrow with all the details :D
Fred
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Hi Fred,
Thanks :D
Like your new icon :clap: :clap:
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Page updated !
The campsite venue has been decided !
Basecamp wil be located near Kilmukridge, 40mn drive to the slope :D
Everything is here :
http://www.retroplane.net/retroplane2009/index-eng.htm
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God Ron, did I replied back to you ? :?: :oops: :oops:
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Hi Fred,
Cor... I'd forgotten.
So much going on recently, what with trip to UK to see Grandkids, and buying a new bike for me and one for wife, and cowering in a corner waiting for this weather to go away.
No, sorry to say, haven't heard yet. :cry:
No worries.
Plenty of building to do :lol:
Ron
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Guys,
We only received the booking confirmation for Kevin Barry for Retroplane.
Can you reply to the mail please with all the details ? :D
Thanks a mill :D
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What email was that Fred? :(
Nice day for flying, but need to find a big battery powered fan from somewhere :lol: :lol:
Ron
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Hi Fred,
Is all going well with this.
I tried to contact Joe at the weekend but he was away.
We had our club (Model County Flying Club) AGM on Tues,, night.We were wondering might you need any help with Retro,,. Also might you want to use our field during the week, perhaps if there was no wind or rain/cloud on the slope.We could arrange a tug.There is a BBQ ,tea and coffee there etc.
Anyway we are here and we have our next meeting in March,so if you want/need anything from us do not hesitate to ask.
Also are you going to arrange insurance cover for the visiting pilots.When we ran the F3A FAI World Championships in 2001 we gave all the visitors temporary MACI membership. Kevin or Ralph ,I'm sure, can arange this with Finbar C.
Would you have plans/kit for a FS3 Besenstiel ?
I might do one if time allows.
Brian
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Hey Brian,
Thanks for the offer. Talked to Joe about that a little while ago. Will be nice to meet at the slope and have a chat (hopefully soon, if the weather co-operate !! :!: :!: )
For the insurance cover, we'll talk about that, and I'll keep in touch with the Cork guys. Not sure when is the next Cork Glide-in, might be the occasion to meet everyone :D
For the FS3, Vincent is your man ! (Vincennnnttttt !!! :D )
Will be nice for you to have a vintage glider to participate ! (need to build quick, Retroplane is getting close !!)
Fred
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Hi Brian, sorry but the FS3 is not drawn in cad, so there is no dxf files/short-kit (but only the ribs to cut...) you can order the paper's plan on this page http://www.retroplane.net/besenstiel/besenstiel.htm
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Hi Fred,Vincent,
Thanks guys I will look at that.
Does the Bes,, qualify for retro ??.
Yes Fred we should meet to chat as our field is exactly in the middle between 'basecamp' and the slope at Leinster.
To run these things takes effort ,not talk,and many hands makes light the work.If you do need 'local' help you and Joe are welcome to come to a club meeting and of course we must get up to the slope soon as possible.
Brian
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Hey Brian,
Of course, the FS3 qualify for Retroplane if you do the basics (fabric type covering (solartex or equiv.) and a pilot). No need to be "colour scale", as long as you are happy with your colour scheme, we are happy ! (ok, maybe not all pink with big flowers, which might be more a Joe thing anyway... :lol: )
As for the organisation, left to do is the administration stuff, everything else is pretty much done :D
But I'll have a proper chat with you anyway, as I have a few questions, and you will certainly know the answers ! :?:
Week end weather don't look good at all... Hopefully next one ! Or if you are around Dublin one day/evening...
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Hi Fred,
Thank you for that.
Yes the weather is bad.If we do not get to fly in the next two weeks or so we can just get to gether to chat. Maybe if Joe gets home ?.
We have some good guys in the club,with event experiance, and we all live just 20km from MtLeinster.
Look forward to a chat so.
Brian
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Sound like a plan Brian ! :D
We'll keep in touch for the chat !
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Hi,
Fred thats ok and we'll be in touch.
Vincent I clicked on that link thank you ,but my French is poor.
There are 2 price lists but I'm not sure what is what.
I will send you a cheque and my address if you can put details up here.
Thank you in anticipation.
Brian
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If I can help :D
Brian, you need to use the Paypal option (on top of the page, FS3 is 20 euros)
Cheques are for France only (certainly because of the various fees when taking a cheque from another country.. Even an European one ! :evil: )
Let me know if you need anything else ! :D
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Hi,
Thank you fred.
I think that I have just ordered the FS3 plan, perhaps Vincent can confirm if all is ok.
Brian
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Thanks Brian, I have received your payment, I will send you the plan tomorow morning
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Hi,
Thanks Vincent.
What have I done :shock: :oops:
I just hope I have the time, if not no harm, as this was the simplest option that I could find.
Are there other simple/quick/easy build options for retro ??.
Brian
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You can build the Flying Plank Backstrom, but the FS3 is even easier
other photos taken last summer, here: http://www.retroplane.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2210
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Hi,
Thanks again Vincent.
The FS3 it will have to be,so here's hoping.
Brian
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and perhaps with the FS3 you can make the F3A program at the slope :lol:
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:?: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Brian
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Hi Guys,
Just a question on finishing for these 'old birds'.
What is the difference between solartex antique and solartex natural.
Brian
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So what is the latest Fred? gliders galore being produced and very little local chat about it. I have a house booked for 9 days and there will be 3 for sure and we will run a b&b service for the few to travel for a day or two.
Vivre la Retroplane 2009
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Eh eh eh!
All set and ready ! Just a few minor tweaks to be done, but all systems are green ! :D
Well, for my models, everything is on the forum/website :P
I'm affraid that the Grunau will not be ready, but I will bring it anyway!
I will be in HQ the Saturday 5th to prepare the camp. The first participant to come, will be Michel M., arriving the Saturday aswell :D
Vincent, and another group on Monday.
Can't wait !! 2 weeks of flying.. Priceless !! (ok, ok, and the aperitfs, the laughs etc etc ! :D :D
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My fleet for Retroplane :
(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Fred/DSCF6875.JPG)
(http://www.gliderireland.net/images/Planeur/ka3/ka3vol3.jpg)
(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Fred/jardin2.JPG)
(http://www.retroplane.net/forum/images/uploads/loopingfred/opel1_210.jpg)
(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Fred/ailefinie2.jpg)
(http://www.retroplane.net/forum/images/uploads/loopingfred/grunauMtleinster_150.jpg)
And the Grunau, hopefully not in a static display!
(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Fred/DSCF7010.jpg)
And of course, Alpina, ASW etc etc for the rest of the days... and night ! :D
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Tres Bon
Looking forward to all the action
R
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:lol: Start practicing French ! :D
Well, the essential really is :
Biere =beer
Vin = wine
Manger = eat
And after that, everything else is an option really ! :lol:
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Mercy buckets
:D :D :D
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Hey Fred. Whats happend to all the Brits? There was a good few of them on the list now there's not even one.
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Yep, they all cancelled a few months ago for various reasons... :roll:
Ah well, that was close to the UK this year and that might not happen again, well, at least for a while!
And beside this, you have Peter and friend from Austria, coming just for the week end! (Saturday/sunday) !!! Fair play to them!
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Hi Fred,
I wonder if model of this will qualify for Retroplane ?
(http://wrightbros.org/Information%20Images/Photos/1901%20Glider%20Launched.jpg)
(Wright Brothers Glider, 1901)
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Hi Dennis,
Yes, it's a glider made before 1960 and not in fibreglass. Qualify for Retroplane! :D
Is it for you or plan to make one for the event ?
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Yes, I'd like to replicate (scaled down, of course) one of WB birds.
not this summer ... winter project.
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Fred, only 2 weeks to go, yipee, just wondering if there will be an entry fee or do we bring wine etc to add to the celler, do you need any help with anything? I think I am to provide a 35 mhz scanner.
Ralph
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Hi Ralph,
Yep, getting close now !! :D :D
No entry fees :D But tradition is that every pilots bring local typical food and/or alcohol for our now famous "International Aperitifs" every night, just before doing silly things :lol:
Yes, we will need a 35Mhz scanner for the pilot registration. We have sourced scanners for the other frequencies, but we don't have a 35 one. If you can bring yours, that would be great :D (Pilot's registration and frequency check is on the Thursday night, just before the welcome drinks). Thanks a lot for the offer and help :clap:
I plan to be on site the Saturday 4th to prepare the camp as a few pilots will be already there, and the first big bunch arrive the monday. If you are around, feel free to come, but other than that, everything is up and ready :D
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Hi all, this year we try to make better, it was last year :lol: :lol:
(http://www.retroplane.net/retroplane2008/resume/aperoplane.jpg)
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:lol: Yeah, we were quiet last year...NOT! :P
And we have videos! :oops:
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Last year's report...
http://www.retroplane.net/retroplane2008/resume.htm
Check out the videos... :oops: :oops:
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Ho my god, who is this guy, with a green face after red face :lol: :lol:
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Bad quality camera! :P :P
I can't remember anyway what happened each night! :P
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Hi guys
at 10pm on the camp ground I want to have my calm to get a nice sleep :lol: I know, getting old, man :D
Steph
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Hey Stephan! You know when you are on our turf you play by our rules :D
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Hey Stephan! You know when you are on our turf you play by our rules :D
Well I think the guest is king, isn't it :lol:
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yep, of course Steph :D and every morning, waking up at 5am
go to the slope at 6am, we are not on holidays
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yep, of course Steph :D and every morning, waking up at 5am
go to the slope at 6am, we are not on holidays
Whaaat :? not on holiday man :cry: I just thought it is, man :!:
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Well man, we'll see ! :P
We will wake you up very early man, everyday man! :P :P
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Well man, we'll see ! :P
We will wake you up very early man, everyday man! :P :P
...as last year man, you were always tha last one to get up man, thats ok man, can live with that man :lol:
Stephan
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Well, that's it, it's Retroplane time !
The first "Retroplanistes" arrived yesterday from Germany (Lothar and Alexander) and already flew in the campsite ! (they came to fly, so, they are flying! :P )
Next arrival on Thursday with Claude, after that, that will be on Saturday for me.. the rest, will be history! :D
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Best wishes to everyone and have a great time, both in the air and in celebratory recreation at Retroplane 2009.
I had intended to attend from Canada and had planned a totally scratch built 3 metre Kranich II, modelled on an original Swedish built Kranich which we flew in the Cork Gliding Club from about 1959 to 1962. (I have a 1mm piece of 1mm ply from a tailplane rebuild, with a Luftwaffe stamp from May 7 1941) which was obtained from a tailplane half which was damaged in a take-off accident in Ballincollig Airfield in 1961.
Had hoped to get some decent documentation on the aircraft, but as I had no feedback and other than a few sketchy drawings, did not feel that I could make a model which do it justice.
I had a hard choice, attend Reploplane 2009, or my 50th School re-union in Cork in August.
Without the required Kranich documentation and the the resulting inability to produce a model which satisfied my standards, I opted for the school reunion.
I will be in Ireland from Aug 20 to Sept 23.
I hope to get as much aeromodelling exposure as possible during that time and will be bringing an electric photoplane with me. This is my Eyespy ( www.windandwavemodels.com/Eyespy07.html ). I hope to get some decent airphotos of the Irish scenery.
I have been dabbling with Autopilot control on this design and am a Beta tester for a lightweight, but powerful system ( www.attopilot.com )
This unit is currently legal only in the US and Canada, but if it is cleared for international use before August, I will bring it with me.
I wish you all a wonderful time at Retroplane 2009 and wish you all the best in keeping the tradition of the developing years of true non-powered flight alive.
Perhaps I can get a Kranich ready for a future Retroplane session, wherever it may be held. If any of you have any additional information the Kranich II, I would welcome any information to make this model a reality.
John O'Sullivan
MACI # IRL-26
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So,.............what's happening lads????? :?:
Is there anything organized??
Keith
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The weather does not look good for Saturday :(
I wonder if anyone will be at Big L. on Sunday ...
what time ?
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Dennis, I intend to be up on Big L on Sunday. I normaly get there around 10.30'ish
Are you an early riser as well?
Keith
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I normaly get there around 10.30'ish
Are you an early riser as well?
yeh, actually I was there last Saturday at 9am... lots of rain and low clouds :(
had to wait till afternoon ...
(http://uav.reddragonswords.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/04072009-300x225.jpg) (http://uav.reddragonswords.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/04072009.jpg)
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Okay Dennis, It's quite normal for Mt L to have cloud on it first thing in the morning. I can see the mountain from where I live.
How about I post a weather report on this thread at about 9am. If the weather is okay I'll meet you up there an hour or two later? what do Y' say????
K.
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I post a weather report on this thread at about 9am. If the weather is okay I'll meet you up there an hour or two later?
sounds like a plan!
it is two and a half hours drive from where I live,
so I would prefer to hit the road before 8am.
I'll check winguru/met.ie (and forum if you happen to post your report that early) for weather update before I leave.
(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/DennisZ/9stones_forecats2.JPG)
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Cool Dennis,
The west slope is better than the South one. Easier to get to and gives better lift. If those wind speeds prove to be right you'd better bring some balast with you :D Yipppppeeeeee!
K.
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There should be people their on Sunday. Flying will probably start at 10am. I'll be their with what I have built of my K8 so far. I wont be flying though.
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I think most of the "Retroplaners" will still be in bed at 10 o/c Alan :lol:
Will you be bringing anything to fly?
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Well I might bring my orange and yellow floater. But I think the wind is going to be too strong for it. And when the "Retroplaners" begin to fly the only thing allowed to fly are Vintage gliders and mine's not ready to fly yet :( :( . Well my main goal is to see everyone else's scale gliders anyway.
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Well, my Phase 6 aint vintage either. So in deference to the Retroplaners I'll fly further along the ridge so as not spoil their view of vintage planes in the air.
See you there Alan. :)
K.
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Tomorrow looks nasty weather wise, has anyone any info on whats happening on the slopes, I am heading down from the north on Saturday to wexford, if there is no flying on, we will just go to the base camp at morris castle and leave the slopes for Sunday.
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Well guys, just got a phone call from Bill Scott of nimsa, who is at the base camp, flying tomorrow so far is a no no, there is some indoor flying arranged for the afternoon, hopefully Sunday will be better.
JohnP
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The west slope is better than the South one.
Keith,
is this west slope (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=bunclody&daddr=Unknown+road&hl=en&geocode=%3BFTx5IwMdWq-Y_w&mra=ls&sll=52.65629,-6.770067&sspn=0.075806,0.174923&ie=UTF8&ll=52.655144,-6.743374&spn=0.075808,0.174923&t=p&z=13) ?
"driving from Bunclody, just pass the turn to Big L, there is a car park on a left hand side , just before road drops down to valley" ?
or is it someshere here (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=bunclody&daddr=52.646084,-6.772213&hl=en&geocode=&mra=dme&mrcr=0&mrsp=1&sz=13&sll=52.651708,-6.802597&sspn=0.075814,0.240326&ie=UTF8&t=p&z=12) - short before Nine Stones car park ?
Dennis
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Hey Dennis,
The west slope is before Nine Stones car park. (When comming along the road from Bunclody.)
The best way to explain is:-------- Imagine you are at Nine Stones car park and driving back towards Bunclody. As you drive away from Nine Stones the road goes around the edge of the side of the mountain. There is a steep drop on the left side of the road. However eventually there becomes a flat-ish area of grass on the left side of the road. That is the top of the "lower" west slope.
If you walk across that flat-ish grass area you will come to the top of the slope. ( I guess it's about 3/4mile from Nine Stones)
The car park you refered to does have a west facing slope but has a very poor landing area. It's realy only suitable for foamies. :wink:
See you there,......
K.
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Hi Guys,
It'l be the Nine Stones almost for sure on Sun.
Brian
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Weather Report:
The Big L. is totaly cloud covered at the moment.
However, this has been the case over the last few days and normally, (apart from yesterday) the cloud starts to break up after a few hours of sunshine.
Apart from over the mountain, the sky has broken cloud.
The wind is SW aprox 25 - 35 Kph. Again, going on past days, the wind will probably increase in strength over the next few hours.
I'll let you know more in an hour's time
K.
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Thanks Keith!
Here is rport from WG:
(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/DennisZ/windguru_1107.JPG)
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Yeah Dennis, conditions continue to improve at the moment..........
At 07.15 the lowest 25% of mount Lienster was clear of cloud. (Nine Stones is about 75% up the mountain)
Rest of the sky has broken cloud (Stratocumulus for the technical amongst you) which is continuing to allow periods of strong sunshine here on tera firma.
Winds continue from the SW varing in speed from aprox 20 to maybe 30Km/h
Lets hope things improve further. Come on you guys, "Wakey! Wakey! rise and shine, hands off your c*cks and put on your socks!" :lol:
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Keith, if you are still reading this ...
would it be possible for you to bring your trainer box (with cable) ,
I think we have same 'master' - Futaba 6ex (with square plug).
Thanks.
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Okay Dennis, I'll bring the buddy box and square ended lead with me. I intend to be there from around 10.30. till about 2pm.
Weather report:.......make of this what you will,...... :?:
Mountain is completely cloud covered!!!
Rest of sky......broken cloud
Wind......Reduced speed to less than 20Km/h from SW.
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Final report of the day:
Big L. is clear of cloud,, apart from the very top and the radio mast :clap:
Broken cloud cover with clear patches :clap:
Wind; 20 - 30 Km/h
See you up there!
Keith
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some pics here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/38384993@N04/sets/72157621351208502/)
videos to follow
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Here's a few photos from yesterday.
(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/error404/pic1.jpg)
(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/error404/pic2.jpg)
(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/error404/pic4.jpg)
(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/error404/pic5.jpg)
(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/error404/pic6.jpg)
Nice photos Dennis, looking forward to the video. :clap:
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the videos are here (http://www.youtube.com/user/dzher)
and here Joe is launching Fred's Opel Rak
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/v/kPnjSSW9UY4[/youtube]
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Hi all
Here are a few pics from Retroplane 2009, taken over the weekend. A part from the weather, it was a great event, with many fantastic scale models on show, well done to Fred, Joe and all those involved in organising the event.
(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/JohnPearson/retroplane2.JPG)
(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/JohnPearson/retroplane4.JPG)
(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/JohnPearson/retroplane5%20%282%29.JPG)
(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/JohnPearson/retroplane5.JPG)
(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/JohnPearson/retroplane6.JPG)
For further photos goto http://www.nijets.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=119
JohnP
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Very good photos John. Even my Miss'es was impressed with them! :clap:
Thanks for posting them, and hopefully we'll see you in September for the next fly-in.
Keith.
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Hi everyone
Thank s to all Irland s team for the perfect organisation :clap:
today we returned to the slope, sun and wind 8)
other photos on http://www.retroplane.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=56787
Vincent
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Folks,
MACI webmaster (Finbar Constant) has kindly agreed to post some of Retroplane2009 pictures on their website (I sent him the link to my
collection (http://www.flickr.com/photos/38384993@N04/sets/72157621351208502/)).
However, he asked me to make a small comments (capture) to each photo.
It would be great if somebody will help me to name models/people pictured.
Or just post here own pictures will 'comments'.
Or maybe somebody could write a small article for MACI's Filghtlines magazine.
Thanks in advance,
Dennis
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Hiya Dennis.
I will be doing a full report for Flightlines very soon. Would be happy to help you with the comments as well.
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Hi all :D
I'm back ! :D
Retroplane 2009 officially closed its doors Saturday! 2 weeks talking gliders, needed a break, and decided to go back to work today! :P
What to say ? First of all, a big thank you to everybody, participating, or not (with a special thank you to Bill from Nimsa(NI) for the helping hands, and of course Joe, which patience was more than a virtue! ) and I've heard in the group that the Irish hospitality was far from being a legend !
Lots of stories to tell and hundreds, if not thousands, of photos to show!
I'm setting up a galery and will send the link later, but I will keep this thread updated with photos, a sort of best of! :D
Vincent will do as usual, a dedicated page with even more inside stories, photos and videos! :clap:
I think everybody left the country really pleased with this year's event, even if the weather showed no mercy for the 2 weeks and throwed pretty much everything at us (we were even expecting some snow, just to make sure we had everything!), but this is a real Irish summer after all, and everybody came prepared (ok, more or less... :P ) and all in all, one of the Retroplane where the most flights were done ! :clap:
I come back a bit later for more, and a few photos :D
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Good morning all :D
I've put a few photos of the event on the GliderIreland Galery.
Direct access to the Albums here :
http://www.gliderireland.net/galery/index.php?cat=5
If you want photos in much higher resolution, just let me know ! (all 800x600 in the album...)
Enjoy! :D
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Last pilots left yesterday. Right back to normality again.
Would also like to say a big thanks to everyone. Especially Bill for the helping hand and David for his help and entertainment coordination! Big thanks as well to Kevin, Les and Ralph for helping with the indoor days and sacrificing their indoor models to keep people entertained.
Joe :clap: :clap:
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Hi folks
back in Germany I immediately pulled out my shorts, what a heat here. I am not used to that after two weeks in Ireland :lol: . What to say about the country and the people. Everything I heared before was true, nice and friendly people, great hospitality gorgeous landscape and yes - even the rain was real :D
Thank you to Fred and Joe for two great weeks, to David for helping to install the awning, to Ralph for encourageing my son Timo in indoor flying and providing the material to do so and all the others I forgot.
Two weeks, which we will certainly never forget.
The picture is one out of our trip to the Kerry, around Dingel based on Joe's advice - at the end of the world :wink:
Stephan
(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Stephan/comp550_IMG_5966.jpg)
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I must agree with everyone, it was a fantastic event. We all had a great time and made new friends over the last two weeks. I think a special thanks must go to Joe and Fred for their endless work for being wonderful hosts for the event.
I was happy to encourage Timo, he was a great lad and loved teh Irish weather.
I hope to see you all again next year
Ralph
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Thanks everyone for making me welcome, although I really do need to brush up on my French :?
Joe, I always feel you get out of an event what you're willing to put in, so I'm always happy to help out wherever needed. (Ask the Jetmasters boys or the Scottish Viking Race team)
I hope to make Austria next year, but fromNI it's a long way to travel and could involve two ferry journeys. Need to look in to it more when we get a definite location. :?:
Will be at Mt Leinster in sept for the Glide In. (Flying this time)
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Is Retroplane in Austria next year?
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Yeah next year will be Salzburg or Cherbourg.
Guess you need a burg/bourg in your name to host it next year.
It is not decided yet as far as I know. Fingers crossed for Cherbourg. It's a ferry away from Rosslare. If it's Salzburg we will have to wait and see.
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It would certainly be nice if it was in Cherbourg :D . But where would you fly. It seems like it is mostly flat land around their. Although the atlas I'm looking is not very good so I'm not sure :?:
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Hey Bill,
keep Your english. I am happy about everybody at Retroplane, who speaks a language I understand :D
Well, for me the driving distance is the same to Austria and to Cherbourg.... But I would prefer Austria.... It's cheaper on the Autobahn.
But we'll see what Vincent decides.
Would anybody please involve Keith in a wooden plane for next Year? I would miss his humor :lol:
Regards
Lothar
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Well thank you for your kind words Lothar. (They are a pleasant change from some of the abuse I normally get from certain members of this forum :lol: )
Unfortunately I don't find building/ flying scale models very exciting. I prefer to fly acro' models in 60Km/h winds. I like to feel my heart pounding in my chest, then I can be sure I'm still alive! :D .
So, unfortunately, wherever Retroplane is held next year I wont be there.
But one day I do hope to have the pleasure of seeing you back on Mt. Lienster. Then we will spend many, many hours talking, laughing, and flying together. I would like that.
Of course we still have this forum to stay in contact, so for now I say,
Lothar, auf wieden horen.
Keith.
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Well Keith,
i can tell You, if You've made Your own drawings on the computer, if You've seen Your millingmaschine making the ribbs and frames and so on, and when You build on Your plane for months with plywood and glue,
then You will feel your heart beating very hard in Your cheast, You will be wet in all Your clothes and You need some rubber between Your knees to protect them whlie swingeing against each other :lol:
I can tell You, it doesn't look as spectacular as acro-flying at wind of 60km/h (what is it miles per hour? :wink: ), but it can be the best kick of adrenalin You ever get. :shock:
think about it.... :mrgreen:
Viele Grüße
Lothar
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Hi all,
The Official Retroplane galery is now online !
http://www.retroplane.net/album/thumbnails.php?album=47
Keep looking as some more are on the way !
Thanks Vincent for sorting out all the photos ! :clap:
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Why Fred, haven't heard from you for so long, I thought you'd fallen off the edge of the planet! :lol:
Wecome back Mon Ami :clap:
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Hi Keith,
No no, still there :D
Just quiet for once !
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Some Retroplane pics at the nimsa website.
More to follow when I get the film developed. Also some video when I get the chance to do some editing!!!
http://www.nimsa.co.uk/retro2009.htm
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Hi all
A little busy at work, so I have not been on the forum. retroplane was fantastic, so good, I have started looking for a vintage plane plan already, hopefully to fly in next years competition. I have some pics on my picasa albums, feel free to use any.
Bill I was out on the slopes this evening flying the DL 50, winds less than 6mph, lift poor, however this little glider flew great, a real test and good craic to keep the glider in the air. looking forward to Sept. slope event at Mount Leinster, my have a few more from the north coming down also.
johnp
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Hi John,
Glad you're getting some flying in, I'm not! Neck has gone again, doing of all things, lifting my briefcase off the desk down to the floor!!
What size and type of model are you looking at?
Lots of FREE plans here:
http://www.vintagesailplaner.com/
and info here: http://www.scalesoaring.co.uk/
There's also the Clif Charlesworth and Chris Williams plans
Give me a call and we can have a chat about it
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Hi Bill, up late tonight
I got the links you sent me thanks, some great plans. I like some of the vintage gliders that the German guys flew at retroplane, I was very impressed with the speed range of these gliders, after all Bill, you know if it's fast, I like it.
JohnP
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Waiting on the painkillers kicking in so I can get some sleep!!
Let me know what models you're interested in and I'll try and find some plans.
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I think I may have a photo of the glider I fancy, which I took at retroplane, yes I have, it's the glider sitting on the ground in the following
photo
(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/JohnPearson/IMG_0233.JPG)
Maybe Bill you can name this glider.
JohnP
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DFS Reiher
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Good morning all, :D
Sorry, been quiet too (for a change ! :lol: ).
Thanks a lot Bill for the photos, so as John ! Some really good shot there ! :clap:
John, this is a Reiher. I have a plan in DXF, let me find it in my messy laptop filing system ! :oops: :wink:
I can try to print a copy for you when you are coming down, or I can send it to you. I let you know for the size of the model...
By the way, more photos were added on the Retroplane Galery ( http://www.retroplane.net/album/thumbnails.php?album=lastup&cat=-47 ) and a resume of the event (in French... Will do one in English !) here :
http://www.retroplane.net/retroplane2009/resume.htm
Fred
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Bill was quicker! :D
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Hi Fred
Thanks for the plan offer, I can get it printed if you can send me the file, john@netstretch.com, one of my clients runs a copy shop and can print very large plans at a good price.
JohnP
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Fred
just got a set of plans sent to my mail box by Bill, looks like a winter build, back to the old balsa bashing days, great!!!
johnp
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Stephan made a wonderful article for AUFWIND about Retroplane 2009 with a lot of fascinating pictures. I think I have to come one day to a Retroplane-meeting too. :) :) :)
The magazine will come out in October.
PHILIPP
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Eventually got round to getting my films developed. Unfortunately, it looks like I need a new camera!! One film was useless and the other not much better. Here is the best of what I got (I use th eterm "best" very loosely!!)
(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/billscottni/ScanImage02.jpg)
(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/billscottni/ScanImage05.jpg)
(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/billscottni/ScanImage07.jpg)
(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/billscottni/ScanImage10.jpg)
(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/billscottni/ScanImage18.jpg)
Vincent, sorry I never sent the video. Most of it was very poor and unuseable. Think I should stick to flying!!
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Ok, first report in a magazine just out ! :D
In the French mag called "Fly International", number 175 dated October 2009 :
http://www.rcmodelisme.net/flyinter/images/fly-inter175sommaire.jpg
And order online here : http://www.rcmodelisme.net/boutique/index.php/cPath/62_64
And Kevin with Les are pictured in the article :D
(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Fred/kevinreport.JPG)
Report is from Michel Malabat :clap:
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Fred,
Is the venue for Retroplane 2010 confirmed yet?
:?: :?:
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Hi Bill,
We will annonce the venue for 2010 in 2 to 3 weeks!
For sure, The dates are 10th - 11th of July 2010 :P
Next article for Retroplane this month, is in Modelismo, an Italian magazine (some of you certainly had a chat with Cesare at the slope and camp site :D )
Summary / order the magazine here : http://www.edimodel.com/
Kevin and Les, still in photo so as one of your Opel Rak :clap: (I think this is Ralph's one)
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Oh, I think next article, is in Aufwind !
Written by Stephan :D
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Hi all,
Retroplane 2009 is in the French magazine "Modele Magazine" dated January 2010! :D
You can preview the article here : http://www.journaux.fr/feuilleteur.php?id=84183&fromrevue=abo
You can jump directly to page 86...
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Gents, for those of you who don't receive Flightlines, the article about Retroplane is here !
http://www.maci.ie/flight-lines/FlightLines-2010-02.pdf (3Mb)
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Certainly looks better in colour.