Post by: mick a on October 16, 2015, 17:54:22 PM
and have started , done the elevators
and as is usual the cutting and fit are excellent
will try to post pics if can work out how to do !!!!!
(wood im good with -computers ...doh!!! )
Post by: Fred on October 19, 2015, 19:40:46 PM
Well, you are not wasting your time! :clap:
I just saw your photo post, I'll come back to you, but the how to from good old Keith is spot on :clap: :clap:
Post by: Happy Days on October 19, 2015, 19:54:10 PM
I know it, and you know it but there's no need to tell everyone :evil:
Keith
Post by: Fred on October 19, 2015, 20:43:38 PM
Post by: mick a on October 19, 2015, 21:36:23 PM
have just got first struts on fuse
did you put servos in tailplane fred ?
Post by: Fred on October 20, 2015, 09:04:10 AM
I did (saw your email, I'll put your photos later).
I only put one (8Kgs), but Ronan here did put 2.
I can't remember what the others did, but roughly, the choice is yours :)
Post by: Fred on October 20, 2015, 09:10:26 AM
(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Fred/FullSizeRenderkjfgdtgyuij.jpg)
(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Fred/IMG_0880hglk.JPG)
Post by: mick a on October 20, 2015, 10:13:59 AM
Post by: Fred on November 19, 2015, 12:08:09 PM
Here are a few photos of the area you are looking for.
From Ronan's Ka8 (thanks Ronan :) )
(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Fred/IMGP3271.jpg)
(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Fred/IMGP3273.jpg)
(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Fred/IMGP3275.JPG)
Post by: mick a on November 19, 2015, 12:39:52 PM
i was trying to do in one piece
.... doh !!!
small pieces
was it 3 mm balsa ?
Post by: Fred on November 19, 2015, 13:17:05 PM
More to sand :)
Post by: mick a on November 19, 2015, 14:41:35 PM
love sanding
also thinking of a removable fin/ rudder
for transport etc so not to smash off
you think this is viable on this one
have a few ideas how to do
if you have any it would be a great help
thanks for all your help as always
mick
Post by: Fred on November 19, 2015, 15:03:33 PM
You can do it by a system of rod (piano wire) going along the rudder, on the hinge line if you see what I mean.
Photos from Internet to illustrate :)
(http://www.airtech-rc.com/fr/imagesmodeles/sun3/derive1.jpg)
(http://www.retroplane.net/berfalkmaquet/derive1.jpg)
(http://www.retroplane.net/berfalkmaquet/derive2.jpg)
(http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/1/9/7/9/5/9/a2223156-54-Removable%20Rudder.jpg?d=1229301098)
(http://www.generalhobby.com/images/allmodels2/yak-55m-60cc-arf-common-39.jpg)
(http://www.generalhobby.com/images/allmodels2/yak-55m-60cc-arf-common-50.jpg)
I'm sure you get the idea :D
Post by: mick a on November 19, 2015, 17:54:22 PM
i was also thinking of being able to remove the fin including rudder
like you would tailplane
just trying to think how to secure
Post by: mick a on December 31, 2015, 17:57:06 PM
Post by: Fred on January 01, 2016, 09:53:51 AM
Post by: mick a on January 01, 2016, 11:08:27 AM
Post by: mick a on January 01, 2016, 11:09:59 AM
Post by: Fred on January 01, 2016, 11:24:21 AM
You did master the brass welding technique!
Post by: mick a on January 01, 2016, 11:32:45 AM
just trying to work out how to make a lock for it
hinges done ,
hopefully start on wings next week
Post by: mick a on January 01, 2016, 19:05:32 PM
tried to copy full size as close as poss --and it works
Post by: Fred on January 02, 2016, 18:24:22 PM
I was going to suggest a piece of tape, but your way looks a bit more professional! ::)
Post by: mick a on January 02, 2016, 18:27:00 PM
i will make a sliding window in canopy , and then can just push locked with finger
having said that , belt and braces with tape as well
Post by: mick a on January 07, 2016, 02:46:56 AM
and is more scale like
and it all fits
Post by: mario on January 07, 2016, 18:10:26 PM
Post by: Fred on January 07, 2016, 23:13:57 PM
Post by: mick a on January 07, 2016, 23:29:44 PM
you started it with the excellent cutting and plan
i need to make a sliding window now
got a couple if ideas , but if anyone can
shine a light or done one all help
greatly appreciated
cheers
mick
Post by: mick a on January 11, 2016, 11:56:44 AM
as you will see from pics building board too small !!!
will secure rott area then slide along , should be ok
Post by: mick a on January 11, 2016, 11:57:48 AM
Post by: mick a on January 23, 2016, 22:25:01 PM
and a pleasing fit of one wing :D :)
Post by: Fred on January 26, 2016, 08:03:45 AM
Nice job Mick! And this canopy really does look good! :-*
Post by: mick a on January 27, 2016, 21:08:10 PM
good cutting is what makes it easy ....lol
how did you hinge the ailerons , did you use covering along top ?
Post by: Fred on January 28, 2016, 10:07:27 AM
For the hinging, I did it like a pig and used Blenderm.
One of those "I do it quick, I'll do it properly later" jobs :-[
Post by: mick a on January 28, 2016, 17:04:39 PM
it looks ok on pics and vid and it works
i dint suppose anyone has any idea how to make a sliding
window for canopy ?
i have a few ideas and trying but if anyone has done one
any help is more than welcome
also what size are full size ones
if anyone knows
Post by: Fred on January 28, 2016, 20:02:26 PM
When you think of it, it's only 2 bits of plastic used as a rail, and the window itself :)
I try to find it!
Alternatively, you can buy them :)
Here is the Topmodel one: http://www.topmodelcz.cz/index.php?&desktop_back=eshop&action_back=&id_back=0&desktop=eshop&action=zbozi_detail&id=12957
But you will have the same with Graupner, MPX etc I believe.
Fred
Post by: mick a on January 28, 2016, 20:36:02 PM
prob being over fussy , have tried with the plastic rails and will just have to bolt together
as any glue just marks them ,
will try oce more or order from topmodelz :)))
Post by: mick a on February 11, 2016, 22:32:18 PM
just finished cockpi
Post by: mick a on February 11, 2016, 22:33:18 PM
Post by: johnfireball on February 11, 2016, 23:58:17 PM
Post by: mick a on February 21, 2016, 22:41:18 PM
Post by: Spanner on May 05, 2016, 00:37:32 AM
How is the Ka8 coming on? Have you any more photos of your progress it is looking great so far. I am working on one myself at present and have the Fuss and tail-plane almost finished and ready for covering. I will hopefully get to start on the wings shortly and I will post some photos very soon.
Can you advise if you managed to source a 1/3 scale sliding window for the canopy I need to install one on mine in order to have access to open the canopy latch.
Keep up the good work
Joe
Post by: mick a on May 05, 2016, 22:23:58 PM
thanks for the intrest , its been on hold for a while , due to house move and apperently more important jobs like decorating and hanging curtains
hope to get back into it this weekend , i just need to sheet top of wings and air brakes and aileron
and cover
i didnt get a sliding window , couldnt make one that was good enough and bought on didnt look right
i open canopy by a thin sheet of brass sliding between canopy and frame to puch the magnectic handle away
will try to find pics
be great to see you progress
Post by: mick a on May 05, 2016, 22:28:22 PM
the catch connects to a magnet in fuse
will take some more pics to explain more
Post by: Spanner on May 06, 2016, 23:44:00 PM
Did you try the windows from Topmodel the ones they have listed are the wrong scale and would probably look wrong or did you source them somewhere else. I have made a spring loaded canopy latch as in full size and will probable have to do as you suggest and make up a tool to open and close via the small gap between canopy and fuselage.
Look forward to seeing progress on the model soon.
Joe
Post by: mick a on May 07, 2016, 06:14:14 AM
i tried the glider uk one
i had about 4 attempts at making one but just never looked good ( glad i didnt cut into canopy )
spring catch is good
hope to see pics of your progress
Post by: Spanner on May 16, 2016, 01:33:13 AM
Will check my kit tomorrow and let you know what I find,
Post by: mick a on August 20, 2016, 18:31:52 PM
just got to cover now
it looks like going to be solartex as cant find diatex anywhere
Post by: mick a on September 03, 2016, 20:15:44 PM
Post by: mick a on September 03, 2016, 20:17:06 PM
Post by: conny on September 05, 2016, 09:23:51 AM
Post by: Fred on September 07, 2016, 15:31:30 PM
Are you going for the one from your full size club? :-*
Post by: mick a on September 07, 2016, 23:05:05 PM
and slightly different design , as not much good at masking and spraying so making it simple ...
Post by: mick a on October 29, 2016, 22:57:10 PM
all ready for maiden
Post by: mick a on October 29, 2016, 22:59:02 PM
Post by: johnfireball on October 30, 2016, 23:20:04 PM
John.
Post by: billscottni on October 31, 2016, 18:40:10 PM
Post by: mick a on October 31, 2016, 19:55:46 PM
fingers xd all goes well
Post by: Fred on November 16, 2016, 15:24:31 PM
First flight planned soon? :-*
Post by: mick a on January 28, 2017, 17:30:51 PM
very pleased , although i didnt fly it , didnt trust myself , although nothing to worry about
thanks fred for a great model
Post by: Fred on January 28, 2017, 17:46:59 PM
Looks like the launch went without any issues, and the color scheme suit it very well (I like it a lot!)
No airbrakes for the landings? Seems very touchy on the elevator when going to land.
Post by: mick a on January 28, 2017, 19:00:20 PM
but would open on ground , might need stronger servos
so kept close
Post by: Spanner on January 28, 2017, 19:34:23 PM
Congrats on the successful maiden, I must say the model looks very well and I also like the colours. Hope you have many a long and enjoyable flights with it.
What servos have you used to operate the air brakes? Could it be that something is binding on the brakes when they are being pushed back by the airflow? Let me know what you find just in case I have a similar issue to resolve on mine prior to painting.
Joe
Post by: mick a on January 28, 2017, 21:24:58 PM
thanks for the compliment
it flew lovely with only needing 3 clicks of down elevator , just to make it penetrate
as fred said a bit heavier is better
it flies as full size one -sedate
i used savox mini metal gear servos for airbrakes , but like you said when wind blowing against
just not strong enough
they work fine on ground and workshop
so going to do some surgery and use standard size but stronger , or might even go servoless units
and put the thin ply top on to match wing
Post by: Fred on January 30, 2017, 20:27:35 PM
I am using 2 mini servos, and airbrakes are opening just fine on mine, but I had to open a bit more at the end of the airbrakes to operate properly (I think I have a 3mm gap)
Post by: mick a on January 30, 2017, 20:59:50 PM
will try that first
Post by: Fred on March 26, 2017, 08:50:57 AM
Got your message, will sort you out today!
Post by: mick a on March 27, 2017, 00:41:56 AM
star as ever
Post by: mick a on August 13, 2017, 23:15:58 PM
here is video of ka8 doing its maiden on tow , had lots of airtime on slope
but first time towed , tow plane is wot 4 extreme with dle 40 twin
Post by: mick a on August 13, 2017, 23:22:28 PM
https://vimeo.com/229495476