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Title: Saturday 2nd of May 09
Post by: Fred on March 24, 2009, 13:11:42 PM
Guys,

I know it's a long shot, but the 2nd of May, we will have the visit of Michel Leroyer, from the Brest (France) club...

Yep, that Michel !  :D  Basically, The Brest club, is the home of VTPR, and they have designed some of the finnest aerobatic gliders you can find !
Excalibur, Sonic, Air100, Twister... You name it, that certainly come from that bunch of guys !  :D

Check out their website : http://www.brestaeromodelisme.com/wakka.php?wiki=PagePrincipale

Have a look at the video section.

So, Michel will bring a few machines with him to fly at Mt Leinster before heading West and fly in more slopes along the way.

Everybody welcome to come and join us  :D

More infos as soon as I have some  :D
Title: Saturday 2nd of May 09
Post by: Happy Days on March 28, 2009, 10:38:38 AM
That sounds interesting Fred.

Do you think Michael would like me to give him a few lessions? :lol:
Title: Saturday 2nd of May 09
Post by: Fred on April 24, 2009, 22:45:57 PM
Just a reminder !  :D
Next saturday, Michel will be with us at Mount Leinster!
Get ready for some beautifull flying !  :D
Title: Saturday 2nd of May 09
Post by: Alan_Perse on April 25, 2009, 15:13:54 PM
I might try and go. I will have all my college assignments handed in by then so I will have some free time.
Going to have to find some gliders to fly though. The ruby was wrecked the last time I went to the Big L. Keith knows all about it  :) .
Might try and get my flying wing going again.
Title: Saturday 2nd of May 09
Post by: Fred on April 25, 2009, 15:29:00 PM
Cool  :D

And the Pilatus ?  :?:
Title: Saturday 2nd of May 09
Post by: Alan_Perse on April 25, 2009, 15:36:52 PM
Quote from: "Fred"
And the Pilatus ?  :?:


Unfortunataly No. I still have not had time to repair it. I'm spending all my time either with college work of building the K8. But I will be finished college at the end of May. So hope fully I can repair it then and finish of the K8 at the same time.
Title: Saturday 2nd of May 09
Post by: Fred on April 29, 2009, 12:29:46 PM
Alright, what is the plan for Saturday ?

So far, weather looks like the wind will be calm in the morning, picking up in the afternoon, but S - SW direction (don't care ! this time, I bring the Alpina up there !  :P )

So, what I would like to do is :
Aerotowing in the morning, beeing at the field early (9-10am) to have lots of flying, then, heading to Mt Leinster to fly with Michel Leroyer.

Any takers ?  :D
Title: Saturday 2nd of May 09
Post by: DennisZ on April 29, 2009, 13:38:06 PM
Quote from: "Fred"

Any takers ?

I may give a try :)
just have no idea what field you are taking about.
also have only general knowledge where to go at Mt Leinter  :oops:
Title: Saturday 2nd of May 09
Post by: Alan_Perse on April 29, 2009, 15:27:17 PM
Hi Fred. Not sure about meeting you at the field for areotowing, but I'll try. But I should be at Mt Leinster all right. There is a possability I might have two gliders with me  :P . I have an old floater up in the attic that I am putting Ruby radio gear into. Just need to rebalance it and it should be ready to go.
Title: Saturday 2nd of May 09
Post by: Fred on April 29, 2009, 16:23:09 PM
Good stuff !
Just in case, I'll have some velcro to make tow hook for the floaters.

Dennis, the field is at Ferns, on the way to Mt Leinster, at the end of the motorway.

We can meet at Ferns if you want to join us ?

Keith, Joe ?
Title: Saturday 2nd of May 09
Post by: Happy Days on April 29, 2009, 18:01:18 PM
Okay Guys,...............I was going down to Cork on Saturday for their fly-in on Sunday but the wind is looking frighteningly light for me :(  So I may have to forego the pleasures of Ralph's mum's buns this time. :cry:

On that basis, Saturday morning is fine for aerotowing. I presume you want me to bring the Cessna Fred?

Dennis; The flying ground is just outside Ferns. It's run by the Model County Flying Club. You can find their web site .......  www.modelcountyflyingclub.com You'll find a map of how to get to their flying ground on it. Then in the afternoon just follow the other guys up to the Big L. :D

I've no idea if Joe can make it.

(Pitty about Ralphs mums cakes,.........bloody weather! :evil: )

K.
Title: Saturday 2nd of May 09
Post by: Peter on April 29, 2009, 20:55:37 PM
Hi all,

I might get down for some flat field flying Saturday am - OK to bring a bungee?

Peter
Title: Saturday 2nd of May 09
Post by: Alan_Perse on April 29, 2009, 21:25:54 PM
Thats a good Idea Peter. I'll bring my bungee to if I can make it.
Title: Saturday 2nd of May 09
Post by: Fred on April 29, 2009, 22:06:54 PM
Hi Peter,

Bungee, sound like a good idea too !  :D

Keith, Ok for the Cessna ? I'll bring a 12x6 for you.
I'll check my power train again on the Shark, hopefully, I should be able to tow as well (can't wait for the BigLift to be ready ! )

I'll bring my proper tow lines !

By the way, had Michel on the phone, and he should be at Bunclody/Ferns/Slope at around 2pm!
Title: Saturday 2nd of May 09
Post by: Happy Days on April 29, 2009, 23:12:00 PM
Right then.

Have a 12x6 prop on the Cessna now Fred, but bring another if you would,.....just in case :wink:
I'll fix up a hook to fit round the wing joiner and protrude out the top of the wing. (Save using tape, as before)

Lets hope for plenty of therms. There were two big ones at the Flight Ground when I last flew there. I was watching the birds circulating on them :)
Title: Saturday 2nd of May 09
Post by: Happy Days on April 29, 2009, 23:13:26 PM
Oh, by the way,.....I like your new avatar Fred. Good likness :lol:
Title: Saturday 2nd of May 09
Post by: Happy Days on April 30, 2009, 00:36:07 AM
One more thing guys, that's just come to mind,........ :roll:

MCFC rules state that all visiting pilots, (that wish to fly from the club's ground) must be insured. So please bring your valid MACI cards with you if you intend to fly from the field.

Keith
Title: Saturday 2nd of May 09
Post by: Fred on April 30, 2009, 08:00:16 AM
Hi Keith,

And I will also encourage people to take the MCFC membership if you want to see the towing/flat field activities to develop in the future  :D

And once again, thanks to Brian and the MCFC club members to welcome us (silent flyers, but we can be noisy on the field!  :P ) :clap:
Title: Saturday 2nd of May 09
Post by: Alan_Perse on April 30, 2009, 14:24:15 PM
Quote from: "Happy Days"
One more thing guys, that's just come to mind,........ :roll:

MCFC rules state that all visiting pilots, (that wish to fly from the club's ground) must be insured. So please bring your valid MACI cards with you if you intend to fly from the field.

Keith


Dame it, that means I may only be able to watch. I dont have my new insurance card yet. At least i dont think so. I'm in college at the moment. So it may have come in the post. I'll have to cheque when i get home tomorrow.
Title: Saturday 2nd of May 09
Post by: joe on April 30, 2009, 16:48:47 PM
Bring your old one Alan and I'm sure you will be fine. New cards should be here any day now.
Title: Saturday 2nd of May 09
Post by: Alan_Perse on April 30, 2009, 19:43:37 PM
It's OK Joe. I just checked my post. I got it. Thanks  :D  :D
Title: Saturday 2nd of May 09
Post by: Happy Days on May 03, 2009, 03:08:29 AM
As far as the aerotowing was concerned that was a partial success, I'd say. Although perhaps more of a learning curve :clap:  

Seems to me three things would benefit from improvement.

Clearly velcro was never designed as a repalcement for a towing hook, and for future use any glider that's looking to hitch-hike a lift behing a powered plane would benefit greatly from having such a hook.

Secondly the  "Tug" can never have too much power. I'll bring a plane with a bit more thrust next time.

And thirdly, for the benefit of the slightly heavier gliders, a take off trolly would make the initial start of the take off run easier.

As for actualy flying an aerotow, that's a different way of flying. Both for the tug and glider pilot, requiring some "mutual understanding" :wink:

All interesting stuff, and part of life's rich experience :D So lets build on what was learned yesterday and look to the future!

Keith
Title: Saturday 2nd of May 09
Post by: Alan_Perse on May 03, 2009, 11:20:20 AM
Thanks for the aerotow Keith. It was good fun. I wish I could have got more flights in.

I have one thing to add to you aerotow suggestions. I would recommend that the glider been towed should have ailerons. It gives better control in my option. A glider with just elevator and rudder control can be aerotowed,  but has a tendency to wobble all over the place.
Title: Saturday 2nd of May 09
Post by: Fred on May 04, 2009, 13:24:16 PM
Well, what a day !!  :clap:
Kind of days that remind me I'm not 20 years old anymore ! (that was hard the next morning! :P )

First of all, thanks to the guys at the MCFC to welcome us once again !  :clap:
A nice day, lots of models, lots of action ! Good recipe for an excellent day !

Thanks to Keith for the multiple tows performed during the day, to Joe to show us that Silent flying is definitively the future  :P  :lol: and finally Brian for the muscle tow with the Zeque ! (and not affraid to put a 4mtrs glider, absolutely not setup, behind his fine model!).
Thanks also to Dennis who joined us for the day.

Peter had some good flying too with the bungee launch, unfortunately, the day was really poor in thermals, the sun deciding not to show up as expected!

I don't have a lot of photos (ok, none...), was too busy flying ! But I have some good videos ! I'll put them later, at some stage, but here are some frames from the video :

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Fred/Grabbed%20Frame%201.jpg)

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Fred/Grabbed%20Frame%202.jpg)

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Fred/Grabbed%20Frame%203.jpg)

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Fred/Grabbed%20Frame%204.jpg)

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Fred/Grabbed%20Frame%205.jpg)

Then, we've headed to the slope (told you, great day!  :D ) where we had a guest, coming from Britany, Michel Leroyer, and his wife, Monique.
Well, all I have to say, is that I took a lesson in piloting ! 4 points rolls VTPR style with a 4.5mtr Discus, well, you have to see it!
And I think this is the first time we applauded a landing ! (why are you never do that when I land a glider in one piece ??  :P  :cry: ), all in the video anyway. And I think his last landing, going full throttle on top of Nine Stones, I think will also stay in memories !

Thanks Michel !  :clap:
Michel left this morning, heading to the cliff of Moher, and I hope to see all the Britany guys next year !

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Fred/DSCF7088.jpg)

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Fred/DSCF7089.jpg)

So, once again, thank you all !

When are we doing it again ??  :D  :D

PS : Remember, 2 weeks time, our first ISR Glide-in of the year, with the first Race Meeting ! More details tomorrow  :D
Title: Saturday 2nd of May 09
Post by: Fred on May 05, 2009, 10:16:28 AM
And here is a first video, the flat field session of Saturday morning  :D

All here : http://www.gliderireland.net/images/videos/MCFCaerotowmay09.wmv

14Mb for around 5minutes.

The slope session will follow soon  :D
Title: Saturday 2nd of May 09
Post by: Alan_Perse on May 05, 2009, 11:25:23 AM
Alan .... Thing  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: . It's a Precedent Electra Fly by the way.
I need to buy a more recognisable glider  :D  :D .

Thanks for the great day Fred.
Title: Saturday 2nd of May 09
Post by: Fred on May 05, 2009, 11:31:38 AM
:lol:  :P  Well, that was the only glider that don't really glide  :P  :P
I think you landed well before the tug  :P

Alright so, for the 2ch gliders, I'll do a "portage" (?) system, even if I don't really like them, we've always had a bit of trouble with them...  :?:

(http://vayres.modelo.free.fr/images/dossiers_portage_img7.jpg)
Title: Saturday 2nd of May 09
Post by: Happy Days on May 05, 2009, 13:14:48 PM
Nice video Fred! :clap:  Thanks for posting it.

Love the music.....................what's it's title, Silent Night?:P :lol:
Title: Saturday 2nd of May 09
Post by: Fred on May 05, 2009, 13:17:21 PM
:P  :P  Well, yes !
No music at work today for some reasons, or crappy stuff...

Just silent flight, the sound of silence, just to pinpoint that the future IS electric !  :P

I'm out of excuses...  :D
Title: Saturday 2nd of May 09
Post by: Alan_Perse on May 05, 2009, 13:36:14 PM
Quote from: "Fred"
:lol:  :P  Well, that was the only glider that don't really glide  :P  :P
I think you landed well before the tug  :P


 :P  :P  Yup. It's not very aerodynmicaly efficient. But it Flys.
Great video by the way.
Title: Saturday 2nd of May 09
Post by: Fred on May 06, 2009, 11:09:31 AM
And a short video of the afternoon at the slope !  :D

http://www.gliderireland.net/images/videos/Slope02may09.wmv

15mb - 4.40mins.
Title: Saturday 2nd of May 09
Post by: Happy Days on May 06, 2009, 13:08:40 PM
:clap: Hey Fred,.....................Do you think I'll be able to fly like that one day, when I grow up?
Title: Saturday 2nd of May 09
Post by: Fred on May 07, 2009, 12:27:19 PM
We already fly like that, we are not showing it off !  :P
Title: Saturday 2nd of May 09
Post by: Alan_Perse on May 08, 2009, 16:50:18 PM
Hey Fred. What did your friend think of Mt Leinster?
Title: Saturday 2nd of May 09
Post by: Fred on May 11, 2009, 21:10:02 PM
Hi Alan,

Talking to Michel in the evening (good food, and a good fresh pint of Guinness!  :D ), he basically said that from all the slope he flew from (and that's a lot !), this is one of the best ever!  :D
Told him the SW was not the best... but well, you saw him flying... :clap:  :shock:
Title: Saturday 2nd of May 09
Post by: DennisZ on September 17, 2009, 09:37:13 AM
just discovered couple of videos I made back then
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/v/qXmBORZebls[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/v/rxGRbMBSgws[/youtube]
Title: Saturday 2nd of May 09
Post by: Fred on September 17, 2009, 09:44:23 AM
Thanks Dennis, brought back some good laughs !  :D