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Gliders => Thermal / Flat field => Topic started by: Richard Boyd on March 09, 2010, 20:23:45 PM
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I was out today flying my Blaster 2 and man the thermals were coming thick and fast at our Dungannon Club site,
Best recorded time was 28.56 minutes from launch ,
Best height was 147M and then I took cold feet as I only use an indoor receiver. :)
I am one happy man tonight !
Is there any other DLG flyer having fun ?
Richard
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Hi Richard
Cool !! you are getting better, :clap: :clap:
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Hi John, it was not me ! it was the thermals !
Average flight times were 4.26mins, I have still alot to learn and I am having fun learning :D
Richard
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Bills videos also helped me , cheers Bill.
Here is a snip on You tube of the Master Bruce Davidson,
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/v/X8FpRzJvzPY&feature=related[/youtube]
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Well done Richard, :clap: you seem to enjoy the “learning” as much as the doing………..I know that feeling well! :D
Keith
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Good stuff Richard! Wish I had my DLG ready to fly. Did a few bungee launches with a light model the other day which was fun.
A soon a I have a chance the DLG is going together.
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Hi guys, I have bad news :cry:
I was out again in the field yesterday playing with the buzzards when I experienced a total loss of signal.
3 hours later I retrieved the DLG from a barbed wire fence. I would have guessed I ran for 2 miles through fields over hedges jumping streams and generally becoming a hunting horse minus the four legs.
The Blaster is history !
I hope to get another few once Vladimir answers my email.
I am missing this plane big time.
Richard
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Hi Keith, learning is the fun part for me, I love a challenge :!:
Richard
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Surely you weren’t flying it with only an indoor rx were you? :!:
Yes, the challenge if half the fun! :D
K.
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Bugger :!:
Sorry to hear that Richard. Just when you were starting to enjoy it :cry:
If it's any consolation you have total inspired/motivated me to get me DLG together. :clap:
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Hi Keith and Joe, I was using a park flyer receiver and have never had an issue. Last night I tested the full setup I had in the Blaster 2 , it seems that a badly connecting micro deans was the cause of loss of signal.
The lipo pack was an old pack from last year and it had been used quite alot. I am switching my gliders to 0.8mm gold connectors
I live and learn !
Hopefully Joe we are going to have the first get together of DLG flying !
I have a few simple tasks put together, this is all about fun and sharing our experiences with DLG gliding.
All I need is a plane :cry:
Great to hear Joe that your interest have been rejuvenated, what plane are you building ?
Richard
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Richard,
Sloperacer. com or T9hobbysport had a DLG for about £140. Vac bagged foam, so probably not AS good as the blaster, but a cheaper alternative. Joe got his model from Hong Kong
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Richard let me know if there is a DLG get together this year. I am aiming to come up for a least one glider meeting this year, be it slope or thermal.
I got a Topsky DLG. See the thread in forum here. You coming down to us at the weekend? If so I could bring it along for you to have a nose at.
Will put it together mid April. Unfortunately thats the next available building window :cry:
Here are some links:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1106335&highlight=longshot+3
http://www.f3k.com.au/index.php/articles/25-reviews/139-dlg-topsky1
http://www.topsoaring.com/index_page0003.htm
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Hi Joe, the top sky DLG is a cool Dlg !
You will have many hours of fun with her.
The DLG/ flat field get together date is set for April and Banbridge club will be the venue. Everyone is welcome for some fun flying and of course the mandatory chat about planes might out way the flying.
All we need it the weather !
Bill can sort out the big man for some thermals and great flying conditions lol
Richard
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Hi Richard,
Will do my best on the weather, but the big man rarely listens to me :cry: :evil: :roll: :roll:
Can you post a list of the tasks, so we can practice a bit? Hopefully my knees and back will stand a little discus chucking!
What about the option of a mini bungee for those who have hand launch models, but not discus ones? :?: Might encourage a few others out
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Hi Bill, these are the proposed tasks,
All the tasks are based on 10min slots
Task M, 5 longest flights, longest flight to be 2 minutes.
Task G, 5 second ladder, starting at 10 seconds.
Task E, all up last down, 3 minute Max. 3 sessions in a slot.
Task C, 10 minute slot, as many flights as you like and the last 2 are counted. 3 minute max. flights.
If you think about the tasks its not all about lauch height and more about using you brain !
All fun tasks and nothing demanding. We may have to alter tasks if the weather is bad. :wink:
Richard
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I'm screwed if I have to use my brain :roll: :roll:
Thanks for posting Richard. Need to get the model out and do a bit of practicing :?: :cry:
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Hi we are going to fly DLGs ,powered and winch gliders tomorrow (Saturday) at the Banbridge MFC club site.
Sorry for this very late notice.
Weather permitting it should be a fun days flying.
Richard
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Sorry Richard, I probably won't make it, as I only get back from Scotland LATE Fri night. Thought it was next weekend?
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Hi all , we had a fantastic day at Banbridge MFC. Conditions for the DLG's were not perfect but still a few 10 min plus flights were had prior to lunch.
Andrew Wallace from Ballymoney MFC give us some lovely flights with his thermal bird , with Bill being the winch man !
Special thanks to Kees for a really fantastic day.
Richard
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Hi Guys , my new Blaster 2 lite has been built and flown ! Yippee it is pure heaven to throw a glider from ground level and get 10-20 minutes flight time.
Yesterday was a massive day for thermals at the park, I had over 100 flights and spent way to many hours flying instead of working.
I have been up since 5am catching up on work , and guess what !!!!
Today looks good again for flying YIPPEE !!!!!!!!!!
Here are a few pictures of the Blaster 2 lite version.
I have posted an article on our club site, this is the link
http://www.dungannonmfc.org.uk/wp/?p=1581#more-1581
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Richard
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Hi Richard,
Your Blaster 2 looks nice.
Since you seem to be the DHLG expert here I was wonder if you can tell me something. In your option how important is the positioning of the throwing peg in the wing. I think the peg on mine is in the wrong place for the size of my hand. I cant get a good launch hight and sometimes the glider goes all over the place due to the peg catching on my fingers as I let go. I probably just need more practice. I have one of those DVD from Radio Carbon Art on DHLG.
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Hi Alan, I am no expert lol
I have learnt through my own mistakes! Hence this is my 5th DLG glider.
I always placed the launch peg just aft of the CG on the wing tip. I am unsure if this is technically correct , but it worked for me.
The peg should be in contact with the tips of your fingers for the best release.
On my DL50 gliders I had never a problem with the launch but friends had the same type of experiences that you are having.
What I found out was they had slight wing warp and some had elevator or rudders not aligned correctly. Servo push-rods twisting on release was a problem for some pilots.
Once you release your Glider it is fully charged with forward energy, any twist or soft part of the glider is tested to the extremes.
Does your glider track straight when you launch at lower speeds ?
Richard
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Hi Richard,
You have been through 5 gliders. You defiantly have had loads of practice then, which makes you more of an expert than I am. I'm only on my first. The glider I have is called the Long Shot. There are pictures of it on the forum some where.
Does your glider track straight when you launch at lower speeds ?
I'm farly ceratin that it tracks straight when I launch at lower speeds. It's a fairly stiff glider, so there are no soft areas except for the fin and tailplane which are made of balsa. I will have to double check. But I will have to repair it first before I can fly it again :( . Had a heavy landing the last time I few it and cracked the fuselage in multiple places.
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Hi Alan, I build better than I fly lol .
The Long Shot is a great DLG, I have read a lot about them.
There probably is some minor thing that is causing the hairy launches.
Check all the simple things first, Flexing boom , loose fin or elevator, Make also sure your wings are perfectly in line with the Fus. Small miss measurements lead to big problems.
I really hope it all works out and you get a great experience with your DLG.
Richard
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Thanks Richard. I'll do that.
But I think at the end of the day it's just that I need more practice probably, and I need to put the throwing peg in a more comfortable position.
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My friends in Lithuania put this wee video together after a F3K competition.
Who ever said Flat field gliding is not fun !!!!!
Get a beer , put up you feet and be entertained !
ENJOY
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com:80/v/15NYgdVJRcQ[/youtube]
Richard
Thanks to Donatas and Richardas
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HLG IN THE SNOW !
Last Saturday during a moment of bordum, I assembled my Blaster and headed to the park beside my home.
Winds were light at about 8mph, and I had a few chucks with the Blaster.
The temperature was 2DC and to my surprise I was getting some fantastic thermals running through the park.
I recorded 2x 10min flight and a few 3-4min flights before my old body became cold and sore.
I was out again on Monday for half an hour and again thermals were popping up all over the place.
The snow may have closed of the mountain but there are other ways to get flying our gliders :)
Richard
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Well done Richard! :clap:
I guess thermals are about relative heat sources. So if one part of the park were colder than the other, the air in the warmer part would start rising as the heavier (denser) air flows in to displace it?
Have to say I’ve never heard of thermaling in the snow before, you might start a new trend Richard
Yes,…..“Trendsetter Boyd” we’ll have to call you in future. :lol:
K.
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Remember... a trend is only a trend if other people start doing it too.
I'm staying indoors and throwing another log on the fire :lol:
Ron
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I would give it a go, if I could get out of my house that is.
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Hi guys, it sure is cold on the thumbs but very refreshing for the heart and mind to get out to fly.
I was in Lithuania in 2007 flying indoors with friends and we tried to fly DLG gliders in minus 20-25DC !
This all took part in the city of Vilnius, flying around tower blocks of flats, limbo under electric cables and getting fantastic lift by flying over McDonalds !
I always knew McDonalds had something good to offer the public.
East winds are too strong today but I will be out again tomorrow.
If I can get a passer bye to take aa few snaps I will post them tomorrow night.
Richard
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Richard, my gasp is suitably falbbered, :D (Flabber gasped). I had thought I was the only one to be mad enough to go gliding regularly is sub zero temperatures. It seems you too are as insane as me, in fact more so…… Minus 25 C! That’s outrageous !!! :wink:
Know what you mean about the cold thumbs. I’m hoping Santa will bring me a transmitter muff on the 25th. I’ve been told using one is rather like,…..and I quote, “Flying a plane with your hands up Sooty’s arse!” :shock:
Now I have to admit I’ve never had the dubious pleasure of putting my hand up Sooty’s arse, (Or anyone else's arse for that matter!) and it may be you are not old enough to remember who Sooty was anyway. But I’m game for anything these days if it get’s me out and flying.
Good on ‘ya Richard, keep up the good work! :clap:
Keith
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Hi Keith, I have missed flying yesterday due to more snow falling here in Dungannon.
This weekend again is looking bad for flying as I have family business to attend.
Keith there is nothing like a MUFF to keep those little tootsies warm !
:lol:
Richard
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Warm Tootsies :shock: !!??
I think I shall have to have a word with the forum moderator about you Richard. :?:
(This forum has definitely gone downhill in recent years………..there are an awful lot of very strange contributors on it now) :lol: :lol:
K.
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Keith,
John &I both use neoprene fishing gloves. With most types the ends of the thumb and forefinger can be turned buck leaving just the tips of those digits exposed. gives a far better feel than normal gloves. Never coud get on with the muffs, always found it hard to get my hands in and on to thesticks if solo flying. Fine if you have someone to launch for you and can already have your hands in and o the sticks.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ron-Thompson-Neoprene-Gloves-Fishing-Hunting-sz-Medium-/360318600973?pt=UK_Sporting_Goods_Sports_Clothing_LE&hash=item53e4a9870d
I got mine for under a tenner
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Thanks for the tip Bill.
Regarding muff’s,……. I think pilots divide into one of two groups.
There are those who swear BY them, :D
And there are those who swear AT them. :evil:
I’ll wait and see what Santa brings me, (if anything) and if I can’t get on with the muff I’ll try neoprene gloves.
Thanks again,
Keith
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In the good old days when I was a lad ! long time ago.
My father took both me and my brother out flying on the mountain, we were known as the retrievers.
Any way he used a plastic bag over his tranny and had a pair of socks as gloves.
This was at least 35yrs ago.
How things have advanced.
Or have they !
Richard :!:
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hi richard , i read with interest about your adventures in DLG 's
I have dipped my toe (so to speak) in it myself . I bought a libelle , almost ready to glide glider from hyperflight uk . Im running it on a four channel reciever . But between reading a bit more , and looking at my launches , i now realise that a 5 or 6 channel is a must , (having to switch between spoilerons for launch , and a slight camber for thermalling) having done quite abit yourself , do you use different flight modes for flying ?
Any tips for launching/finding thermals would also be appreciated
Its probably one of those things you learn by doing ,trial and error :roll:
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hi Luke
i have a Blaster and i use 3 different settings i have normal flight, Launch and thermal
on launch mode i have the ailerons set up a couple of degrees and this helps getting the model into the air
on the thermal setting the ailerons are set a couple of degrees down to change the camber of the wing
all these settings are all trail and error and once you get a happy medium with them you'll get the results and the height on the launch is all practise and make sure you're CG is right that aslo can effect your launch