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Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: joe on September 03, 2008, 15:35:48 PM
Hiya all just thought I'd share a project I have been working on and hope to get finished soon.
Aermacchi MB339 PSS. Span 1.625metre(64 inch)
Fiberglass fuse. Foam veneered wings.
I did the fuse layup a couple of months ago and finally got round to cutting the wings last night. Will take a bit of testing with the fuse layup to get the right compromise between weigh and strength and also the wing profile to see what is going to work best. Will finish this off over the next month or two whenever I'm at home and will keep you posted of my progress.
 
(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/joe/IMG_0479.jpg)


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Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Fred on September 03, 2008, 15:42:35 PM
:clap:  :clap:  Looking really good Joe !

Where is mine ?  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: joe on September 03, 2008, 15:48:52 PM
Your next on the list of course Fred. Make a foam cutting machine an I'll make you a fuse!! :lol: Deal??
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Fred on September 03, 2008, 15:55:43 PM
You're not a good friend...  :cry:
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: joe on September 03, 2008, 16:05:32 PM
Ah OK then you can have one,  even if you don't make a CNC foam cutting machine. Am only trying to motivate you. You could even have this one once it flies a few times. Will make a second test model once this is done for sure.
Yeah! think it looks really good too. Looking forward to getting it in the air!  :D
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Fred on September 03, 2008, 16:08:03 PM
Alright so.. Just need to clean my workshop for the machine !
I don't even have space to build my next project !  :shock:
But getting there.. 3 green bin full already !  :D
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Peter on September 03, 2008, 22:53:57 PM
Looks great Joe.  Very nice fuselage.  Looking forward to seing his one fly.
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: joe on April 15, 2009, 01:28:04 AM
Finally flown this.
Very small video clip. Sorry for the poor quality was taken on a digital still camera. Had no video camera unfortunately.
More info tomorrow. Just to say, it fly really well. Very happy :lol:  :lol:

[youtube]http://www.dailymotion.com/swf/x8zep7[/youtube]

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/joe/Aermacchi%20small.jpg)
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Fred on April 15, 2009, 07:31:12 AM
:shock:  Very good Joe !  :clap:  :clap:
Looks great in flight ! And me like the music  :D

I want one !  :D

I'll bring the camera next time we fly!
Just enough time to do a nice colour scheme!  :P

Congrats again on the maiden!
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Happy Days on April 15, 2009, 09:33:34 AM
Yeah, good sound track, (Alice Cooper if I remember right) shame about the video. Sack the camera man!
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Alan_Perse on April 15, 2009, 12:32:39 PM
Great job Joe  :clap:  :clap: . Looks great.
Did you make the fuelage using the lost foam method?
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: joe on April 15, 2009, 13:15:38 PM
Hiya Alan. I have a mold for the fuse.

So here's a bit more info.

Span 1.5 metres /59 inches
Weight 1.8 Kg / 63 ounces
Wing loading 15 oz/sq.ft

So that first flight was in medium lift at the smallish coastal site down the road from me. Bit nervous but didn't need to be in the end.

Very stable flyer. Lots of dihedral to help here. No problem flying in this lift so I think it will go OK in less too. Got a good turn of pace and is very happy in tight turns. Bank and crank is no problem! No stalling out of turns or nasty behavior. Takes a good bit to stall it and after holding it at a high angle of attack in eventually tip stalled. Need to check the balance etc as I might be able to improve this.
Rolls are a scale like. I'm sure they can be speeded up with a few adjustment.
Overall it flies great. Me very happy. :D  :D
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: IceWind on April 15, 2009, 15:03:52 PM
Great video and great music!
That seem like pure fun.
Now it just need a paint job to match.

That spot also seems great to fly.
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: joe on April 15, 2009, 18:08:22 PM
The video had a kinda 70s look to me so I added some 70s ROCK!!!!!!

Here are some potential schemes


(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/joe/mb1.jpg)


(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/joe/MB3391.jpg)


(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/joe/MB3392.jpg)
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Alan_Perse on April 15, 2009, 20:08:36 PM
Well if you use the camouflage colour schemes you might find it hard to find when you land  :P  :P . But I think they all look good.
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: joe on October 16, 2009, 11:21:47 AM
Never got round to updating this. So here are some photos (thanks john) and video (thanks Fred).
Not finished yet but nearly there.

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/joe/IMG_0703.JPG)

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/joe/IMG_0712.JPG)

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/joe/IMG_0742.JPG)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/v/9HJcuS1eUjc[/youtube]
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: rogallo on October 16, 2009, 12:35:34 PM
So when will you be producing the kits? Can I put my name on one please? :)
Lovely job

Fouga next?

Ralph
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: joe on October 17, 2009, 08:39:08 AM
Well, have already started on the Aermacchi Ralph. Have a few kits almost ready. They are spoken for. Next bunch won't be until December some time as I'm on the road again. I'll put you down for one of those.

Yeah, Magister is next. Probably be next year for that one. You have one of the originals Ralph?
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: rogallo on October 19, 2009, 09:35:35 AM
Yes Joe, have one of the originals, would not mind a replacement if you are making a batch of Fougas aswell please?

Cheers

Ralph
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: joe on October 19, 2009, 20:09:45 PM
I'll stick you on the list Ralph. It'll be next year for that one.
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: joe on March 11, 2010, 22:31:06 PM
Getting there. Added pilots, tip tanks and decals. Nearly ready for the weekend. Few more things to do but they will have to wait. Unfortunately it's a bit battered and bruised already from a couple of hard landings.

Big thank you to Anthony(error404) for doing the decal at such short notice.

 (http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/joe/photo-4.jpg)

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/joe/photo-3.jpg)
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Fred on March 11, 2010, 22:44:54 PM
:clap:  Nice !
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: rogallo on March 12, 2010, 07:52:25 AM
Very nice Joe, any sign of a kit or two?
I would not mind making a few fusealges if you need?

See you tomorrow  I hope

Ralph
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: joe on March 12, 2010, 08:18:12 AM
Hey Ralph. Taking forever to get kit ready for this one. I don't have time to do fuselages myself these days so I sent the mould up to a guy I know in Donegal. Very good with composites. He designs and builds carbon fibre guitars. So about two days after I send the mould I get an email from him saying that his wife needs to go into hospital for a heart op! That's the last I heard from him. The plan was to have a bunch of fuses done by now. I've been putting off emailing him as u don't want to be insensitive. I'll chat to you over the weekend about it.
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: rogallo on March 12, 2010, 08:39:22 AM
Cheers Joe, you an early bird too?

Ralph
Title: M339
Post by: JohnPearson on March 12, 2010, 15:39:47 PM
Hi joe

That is one great looking plane, now if we had a few more ready, we could have a display team smoke too!!!!

see you tomorrow on the slope
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: rogallo on March 12, 2010, 16:03:23 PM
What time?
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: JohnPearson on March 12, 2010, 16:30:30 PM
Hi rogallo

We should be there about 11.00am if all goes according to plan, 3 hrs drive, down from Armagh
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: joe on March 12, 2010, 23:08:26 PM
See ya all i the morning. Safe travels. Fingers crossed for good weekend.
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Ray Jones (Taff) on October 14, 2012, 23:48:57 PM
Met up today Joe with JP so glad to see my designs are finally 'back to life' again look forward to seeing you all in Ireland 2013 ,best wishes from Wales to all our Irish friends ,Ray Jones
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Fred on October 15, 2012, 11:45:20 AM
Hi Ray,

Welcome to the forum  :clap:
An honor to have you with us!  :clap:  :clap:

So, how was this week end?
Sorry could not come with JP as I had some family commitments to attend to  :cry:

JP, where are the photos??  :P  :P
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: JohnPearson on October 15, 2012, 14:08:02 PM
Hi Guys

Great weekend Fred, a big welcome from the PSSA lads made it even more special. I have all the pics and will post them up tonight!

Ray welcome to the forum, it was fantastic to meet you and your lovely wife, and may I say that your model are just wonderful, pity the wind did not play ball on Sunday, was looking forward to seeing them fly.

O.k, report coming soon, here is a photo of Ray and some of the local pilots with the M339 and the Magisters.

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/JohnPearson/IMG_8095.JPG)

The original Pss jets designed by Ray Jones, which Islandmodels will be adding to there sport scale range of model gliders.
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: the Pope on October 15, 2012, 16:49:21 PM
ohh, what a brilliant team

 waiting for the pics...
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Alan_Perse on October 15, 2012, 18:46:33 PM
Quote from: "JohnPearson"
The original Pss jets designed by Ray Jones, which Islandmodels will be adding to there sport scale range of model gliders.


Will that include the Magister John?
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: JohnPearson on October 15, 2012, 19:09:58 PM
Hi Alan
Yes the Magister will be available soon!
Title: Hi
Post by: Timbo on October 15, 2012, 19:26:41 PM
Another Taff here - although Dad was born and raised in Lisburn :-)
Great to meet you at the weekend John, pity that Saturday was the only good day of the two. Ive emailed you about the foam cutter wire tension thingy....Tim Mackey
Title: PSS
Post by: Ray Jones (Taff) on October 15, 2012, 21:25:25 PM
Thanks Fred it's pleasure to be part of the forum i sincerley hope to see some you you guys 'over the water next year and of course you are welcome here in Wales at any time ,it was a also great to meet up with JP and chat we din'n fly but we made up for that with a good old 'chin wag' happy landings ,Ray  :)
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Hawk172 on September 20, 2013, 23:21:02 PM
Just a few pics from my Island Models Aermacchi MB-339 build, which I'm hoping to have finished in time for the October PSSA Event on the Great Orme, Llandudno!

All the major construction work is complete, I've made a few minor mods to improve robustness and scale profile but basically it's a stock build from what is an excellent kit.

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Hawk172/IMG_5876.JPG)
The veneered foam wing is effectively complete, here covered in antique Solartex ready for paint...

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Hawk172/IMG_5873.JPG)
Wing root detail showing servo bays and vac formed air intake mouldings in place.

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Hawk172/IMG_5878.JPG)
Underside of wing showing the large ply load spreader I've added for the wing bolt...

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Hawk172/IMG_5889.JPG)
Wing tip pods are all complete, ready for paint - retained with little magnets on the tips and on a former inside the pods...

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Hawk172/IMG_5883.JPG)
I've cut the moulded fin back a little on chord and added a (fixed) balsa rudder with a revised profile to obtain a more scale profile...

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Hawk172/IMG_5894.JPG)
At the back I've added a scale jet pipe...
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Hawk172 on September 20, 2013, 23:24:51 PM
(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Hawk172/IMG_5887.JPG)
I've fitted a 1/2 depth cockpit bathtub, enabling a little more scale detail to be added soon...

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Hawk172/IMG_5886.JPG)
This shows the underside of the cockpit floor, the forward wing mount former and the servo mounts for the elevator - fus is of excellent quality!

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Hawk172/IMG_5879.JPG)
Pilot ready to go - just needs an office detailing now!!

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Hawk172/IMG_5885.JPG)
I've strengthened the wing bolt mount using 1/2" hardwood rails which extend along the inner fus walls fore and aft of the mount plate.

Ill add more pics as I make more progress over the next couple of weeks.
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Hawk172 on September 21, 2013, 07:53:46 AM
I'm finishing the model in the new 'low vis' colourscheme of the Peruvian Air Force, don't think that's been seen before on the slope so nice to have something a bit different!

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Hawk172/forum2149291.jpg)
(Photo courtesy of Airliners.net - Sergio De La Puente)

John Pearson has been a massive help here and has been good enough to supply me with all the decals beautifully tailored for this scheme, a combo of waterslide and cut vinyl - according to John these will now be made available for future kit sales if you too fancy this scheme!
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: JohnPearson on September 22, 2013, 22:40:40 PM
Hi Phil

Good to see that the MB-339A build is coming along well. You can really add alot of scale detail to this model if you wish, I look forward to seeing the model with some cockpit detail, also, should look great and with the Peru colour scheme and the new peru decal set, I expect this MB-339a to turn a few heads on the slope next season.

Now that I am slowly working my way through the order list for MB-339a kits, I have also put together a selection of other decal sets of various examples from air forces around the world.

Sets available at present for the MB-339a

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/JohnPearson/Frecce-Tricolori_RIAT2005_027_800.jpg)

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/JohnPearson/074-001.jpg)

Two display teams, the Frecce Tricolori and the new Golden Knights.

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/JohnPearson/25123_1170369655.jpg)

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/JohnPearson/MB339%20IAF%20MM54442%20RS-45.jpg)

Two Italian training squardon sets are available.

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/JohnPearson/431_3.jpg)

The UAE desert colour scheme

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/JohnPearson/326.jpg)

This is an Australian training scheme for the MB-326, but can be used with the MB-339a

And of course the new Peru low viz and red roundel scheme.

The customer can request a particular scheme when ordering their kit.

I intend to add a few more schemes later next year.
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Fred on September 24, 2013, 13:47:21 PM
Hi Phil,

Looking great so far!!  :clap:  :clap:
Really looking forward to the finished product!
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Hawk172 on October 06, 2013, 11:41:24 AM
So with just a week to go until the final 2013 PSSA Event on the Orme its been all hands on deck regarding the Macchi completion, a lot of late nights after a full days work in the office has got the airframe to this stage - complete ready for paint this weekend during daylight.

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Hawk172/EDITIMG_5957.jpg)

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Hawk172/EDITIMG_5959.jpg)

Ive added a bit of detail to the office - I had intended to fit the canopy before spraying but my chosen canopy adhesive takes 24 hrs to set hard and I ran out of time... it was essential I sprayed the model this weekend in good light - so all this stuff needs careful masking now and Ill add the canopy and paint that by hand later in the week...

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Hawk172/EDITIMG_5961.jpg)

Ive spent some time clearing the garage of all other models and converted it into a little home spray booth with some polythene sheets... and then the fun begins!!!

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Hawk172/EDITIMG_5969.jpg)

This is the base coat for the Peruvian AF scheme, a darker blue will be added later today - Im just having a break from the fumes as I upload this post now... :-)
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: JohnPearson on October 08, 2013, 00:14:55 AM
Very nice work Phil, looking forward to getting a close look at the model over the weekend. The cockpit looks fantastic.

See you on Saturday

JP
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Hawk172 on October 08, 2013, 00:28:48 AM
Thanks John, the model has gone together very well, Im pleased with the overall finish, just got to finish the paint job now - tonight Ive glued the canopy on firm, it takes a while to set, so its all taped and clamped... now we wait...

Will soon be adding the decals and bringing the model to life!!
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Fred on October 08, 2013, 12:10:58 PM
Stunning work on the canopy!!  :clap:  :clap:
Can't wait to see the finished product Phil!  :clap:
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Hawk172 on October 08, 2013, 18:43:47 PM
Thanks Fred, are you travelling to the Orme this weekend with John??  Look forward to meeting you there if you are!

The consoles are a cheat really, Ive just stuck on a printed photo but they work well at this scale giving a 3D feel on a 2D surface - image attached in case anyone else finds it useful for future builds, or if John wants to add it to his kits - I just print them off onto gloss photo paper and trim them to size.

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Hawk172/macchi%20dash%20800.jpg)

The seats are made from balsa and plasticard.  The canopy handles are bent from plastic covered paper clips.  Its only stand off scale but gives a decent feel for the full size.
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Fred on October 09, 2013, 11:12:59 AM
Quote from: "Hawk172"
Thanks Fred, are you travelling to the Orme this weekend with John??  Look forward to meeting you there if you are!



Answer this afternoon! I hope I will be able to make it and meet you all guys!
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Hawk172 on October 09, 2013, 18:46:36 PM
Had a bit of bother with the dark blue camo and I've had to rework it to the correct pattern as my initial attempts (straight from rattle cans by hand) led to massive overspray on the pale blue.

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Hawk172/EDITIMG_5977.jpg)

I treated myself to some self adhesive foam tape, 3M Soft Edge feathering tape, not cheap, but easy to use and Im glad to say its given me the camo finish I was after.

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Hawk172/EDITIMG_5980.jpg)

A lot of masking later and we are finally ready to paint.

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Hawk172/EDITIMG_5984.jpg)
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: JohnPearson on October 09, 2013, 21:56:50 PM
Hi Phil

Looks like the painting is coming along well, interesting way of adding the camo blue coat, never seen this foam tape before, clever idea! :clap: keep at it phil, big winds on Saturday, and with that RG14 wing, this MB339 should burn up the sky!!! :P
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Hawk172 on October 10, 2013, 01:14:47 AM
Hey John, yeah the 3M tape idea was new to me too, works well - clever stuff...gives a nice soft edge if applied properly.

With the paint just dry I couldn't resist a few hours of decals and detailing tonight...

This is how she looked with all the masking off.
(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Hawk172/EDITPAINT1IMG_5986.jpg)

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Hawk172/EDITPAINT2IMG_5990.jpg)

Ive applied all the vinyl cut decals and a few of the water slides... John the water slides are super, a great addition to the kits.

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Hawk172/EDITPAINT3IMG_5995.jpg)

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Hawk172/EDITPAINT4IMG_5998.jpg)

So this is how it looks at the end of play tonight... just a few bits of detail painting needed now, a few panel lines, and a clear lacquer over the water slides and she's s ready for the slope.  Ill add the fus strakes and some more detail after the maiden.

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Hawk172/EDITPAINT5IMG_6000.jpg)
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: JohnPearson on October 10, 2013, 11:28:54 AM
Hi Phil

Wow, she looks fantastic, the two tone blue colour scheme looks the business.
I will have to draw up a set of waterslide decals for the various vents and panels for this model when I get some time, with this colour scheme, the various panels and with panel lines applied, along with the various fuselage text, would stand out on this already fantastic model.
I want a few good photos this weekend of this model for the website, well done, outstanding work. :clap:  :clap:  :clap:  :clap:  :clap:  :clap:
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Hawk172 on October 10, 2013, 18:18:07 PM
Last post from me before we head off on the Orme trip, she's all balanced and weighs in at 6lb 12oz ready to go, a little overweight (I think nearly 2lb of this is paint!) but this will give it a loading well suited for the big hills she's been built for.

Anyway, job done bar some matt black paint on the intakes, some silver on the exhaust and a few key panel lines, which I'll add this evening.

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Hawk172/FULLYPAINTEDIT1.jpg)

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Hawk172/FULLYPAINTEDIT2.jpg)

I've set the CoG at 5" as per the instructions, let's see how she goes!!
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Fred on October 10, 2013, 21:09:50 PM
Absolutely beautiful model Phil!!  :clap:  :clap:  :clap:

Just a shame I will not be able to see it this week end in flesh  :cry:  :cry:  Yep, have to be on standby for work Saturday night  :!:  :!:

Hopefully next year! But that gives me big motivation to start mine! (at last!!)

For the paint, in my plastic kits days, we use to use rolled Bluetack to get this paint effect  :D  

Have fun this week end (lucky  :evil: ) and enjoy the first flight!  :D
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Hawk172 on October 13, 2013, 23:06:37 PM
Took the Macchi to the PSSA event on the Orme this weekend and she flew both days in good conditions - I'm glad to report she flew really well!!

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Hawk172/EDITIMG_6527.jpg)

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Hawk172/EDITIMG_6564.jpg)

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Hawk172/EDITIMG_6572.jpg)

The RG-14 wing section really gave this model a turn of speed yet even at 7lbs AUW it could still stooge around when the lift died off a little for PSS.  Spoileron mix proved very useful to slow the model up on finals.  A bit of refinement needed on the Tx set up with rates and expo will see this model fully fit.
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Keith on October 13, 2013, 23:40:10 PM
Well done  :clap: Cracking looking model
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Fred on October 15, 2013, 07:53:48 AM
Congratulation on the first flight Phil!  :clap:  :clap:

And absolutely stunning photos! The plane looks fantastic!  :clap:  :clap:

Any reports of the week end?  :D
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Hawk172 on October 15, 2013, 10:07:52 AM
Thanks Fred,
Yeah well chuffed with the maiden, and the second flight on the Sunday - it shows a real turn of speed with the RG14 section and was dead smooth in flight from the off - very little buffeting - very jet like - helped no doubt by the AUW at nearly 7lb - but she was stooging around quite nicely in 12-15mph winds so no bother!  Should be pretty awesome when you can really get the trims forward on a high wind day!

Write up is under prep - first job was to edit the photos, which will be available soon, then the write up to follow.  Will post link here (well, in the general PSS section) when it is done.
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: bren.p on October 16, 2013, 23:23:45 PM
nice one Joe looks really well.

How you guys make these foamies is beyond me or is it ???? HHMMMM :!:
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Hawk172 on October 22, 2013, 23:48:09 PM
So since the maiden flight I've been working on finishing the Macchi with details like stencilling, key panel lines and a little weathering before it is all sealed with a clear lacquer.

This really helps break up the large areas of painted surface, and brings the model to life... its only 'stand-off' scale of course, the lines simply applied with a range of permanent marker pens.


(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Hawk172/XEDITIMG_6060.jpg)

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Hawk172/XEDITIMG_6062.jpg)

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Hawk172/XEDITIMG_6063.jpg)

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Hawk172/XEDITIMG_6067.jpg)

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Hawk172/XEDITIMG_6068.jpg)

Next stage is a little weathering, not too much but just enough to take the shine off the model in certain places that would naturally get mucky on the full size.  I'm still experimenting with weathering, so bare with me, I've just treated myself to a set of artists pastels, which I'm hoping will do the job!
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: JohnPearson on October 23, 2013, 21:57:54 PM
Looking good phil, the panel lines set a model off. Have not got round to producing any decals for the panels yet, just can't get any time at the moment to complete the various vents and panel drawings. Send me a few pics when you finish the weathering.
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: johnfireball on October 24, 2013, 00:15:28 AM
Hi Phil,
        Really nice model. for weathering you cant beat an airbrush but a similar effect can be achieved with water based paint and a sponge used with very light dabbing. If not happy you can wipe it off with a damp cloth and start again. Don't use pure black but mix up some white with very little black adding as required to make a subtle darkish grey (depends on model colour) until happy with the effect.Once done clearcoat over and paint sealed.
John.
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Hawk172 on November 03, 2013, 21:22:36 PM
Weathering just about complete on all the flying surfaces now, Ive used various shades of brown, orange and grey to try and recreate the effect of a few hundred hours of low level flying in Peru.

Maybe just a few more oil stains on the underside and she's done ready for the clearcote.  The trick is knowing when to stop! Sometimes less is more, as they say...

It's also never easy doing the weathering indoors under artificial lighting, it looks very different once under sunlight!  Anyway, its only a bit of fun in an attempt to take the shine off the model.

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Hawk172/weathering1.jpg)

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Hawk172/weathering2.jpg)

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Hawk172/weathering3.jpg)
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: the Pope on November 04, 2013, 07:06:29 AM
Really amazing   :clap:
I would be happy to see it flying in the french pss event in Macon :lol:
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Fred on November 05, 2013, 11:53:51 AM
What more to say?... Fantastic job as usual  :clap:  :clap:
Title: Re: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: iawnski on January 05, 2014, 19:08:04 PM
Quote from: "joe"
Hiya all just thought I'd share a project I have been working on and hope to get finished soon.
Aermacchi MB339 PSS. Span 1.625metre(64 inch)
Fiberglass fuse. Foam veneered wings.
I did the fuse layup a couple of months ago and finally got round to cutting the wings last night. Will take a bit of testing with the fuse layup to get the right compromise between weigh and strength and also the wing profile to see what is going to work best. Will finish this off over the next month or two whenever I'm at home and will keep you posted of my progress.
 
(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/joe/IMG_0479.jpg)


(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/joe/IMG_0478.jpg)


(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/joe/IMG_0480.jpg)

 HIJOE WERE DID U GET THE FUZ FROM FOR THE AERMACCHI THANKS
(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/joe/IMG_0481.jpg)
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Fred on January 09, 2014, 13:02:35 PM
Sorry, only seeing this now!
You have to ask John Pearson (JohnP on the forum). He is your man :)

Fred
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Seaking101 on January 21, 2014, 20:43:48 PM
I have started with my build and have a build blog running on another forum!
In order to not take over and duplicate everything on here, you can find the blog at http://www.modelflying.co.uk/forums/postings.asp?th=89993

Cheers
Dave.
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Fred on January 24, 2014, 07:49:14 AM
Nice one Dave!
Following your build on Modelflying already :)
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: rogallo on January 26, 2014, 09:14:27 AM
(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/rogallo/339%202.jpg)

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/rogallo/339.jpg)

Hi JP I am looking for a set of decals to finish this baby off. Only 5 years I think for this one.  I know my rudder is upside down, it is distressed ;-( .

What do you use t do the panel lines? pen, pencil?

Should be ready for test flying in the next week or two. Now to the tip tanks.

Ronan dĂ©pĂȘchez-toi !

PS thanks Joe for the Kit and JP for the moldings
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: mario on January 26, 2014, 12:01:01 PM
yes :wink:
(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/mario/IMGP2592.JPG)
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: JohnPearson on January 26, 2014, 23:03:44 PM
Hi all

Ronan the model looks great, just needs a good paint job.

Ralph I have the set you need RS44 training squardon.
(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/JohnPearson/aermacchi_mb339_ac520.jpg)

e-mail me your address,

johnp
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: JohnPearson on January 30, 2014, 00:07:33 AM
Hi Ralph

Decals in the post from today, you should have them by the weekend :?:
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Fred on January 30, 2014, 14:54:15 PM
Looking very good Ralph!  :clap:
But, not sure if you have noticed, but I think, it is safe to say, that, maybe you don't know, or realised yet, but I am quiet convinced, if not 100% sure that your rudder is the wrong way around!  :P

Ok, I'm far away already! :lol:
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: rogallo on January 30, 2014, 15:05:30 PM
It is a prototype fred to see if people would notice!
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Fred on January 30, 2014, 15:20:37 PM
(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Fred/Dr%20evil%20-%20Proto.jpg)


 :lol:
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: rogallo on January 30, 2014, 15:25:31 PM
Exactly, glad you understood!
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: rogallo on January 31, 2014, 10:17:37 AM
Work before work this morning ;~)

thanks JP.



(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/rogallo/339x.jpg)
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Fred on January 31, 2014, 10:37:56 AM
:clap:  :clap:
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: mario on February 08, 2014, 08:15:34 AM
I like this one
(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/mario/130324-aermacchi-mb-339-ab-lb_02.jpg)
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Fred on February 09, 2014, 09:09:07 AM
Me like it!  :D
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: JohnPearson on February 15, 2014, 22:18:08 PM
hi Ronan

here is a link to the mb-339 colour scheme :

http://olivier040.wordpress.com/2013/03/25/laermacchi-mb-339-dantoine/

jp
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: mario on February 16, 2014, 07:21:19 AM
yes  I now it
I found this picture on it
(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/mario/130324-aermacchi-mb-339-ab-lb_02.jpg)
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: rogallo on March 03, 2014, 21:04:29 PM
339 is now finished and balanced.  can't wait till Saturday woo hoo
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Seaking101 on June 10, 2014, 10:41:21 AM
Well, I finally finished my MB339. This is the first in the Al Fursan colour scheme. I understand that it is a scheme that will be available with the kit soon!  John has been amazing with his decals (Thanks again John).

I did take it to the Gt Orme in Llandudno, North Wales last weekend but due to a Rx issue, It didn't get maidened!!

Hope to maiden it soon though!!

Dave

(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s210/Seaking101/MB339/DaveGilderMacchi1small.jpg)

(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s210/Seaking101/MB339/DaveGilderMacchi2small.jpg)

Sorry, Don't understand how to post images directly!!
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Fred on June 10, 2014, 10:46:22 AM
Fixed the image thingy :)

Looks really good Dave!  :clap:  :clap:
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Seaking101 on June 10, 2014, 10:53:21 AM
Cheers Fred,
Any chance you could PM me instructions on exactly how to do the image thingy!?
Cheers
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: rogallo on June 10, 2014, 11:03:53 AM
I said nothing honest!

Any chance you could PM me instructions on exactly how to do the image thingy!?

:D
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Fred on June 10, 2014, 12:04:56 PM
:evil:

Ooppss, computer issue. Blanik files are gone  :cry:

 :P

For Dave, in your case, copy the URL of the image, paste it in the forum in your text.
Then, highlight the URL, and click the button "img" on top. Et voila
 this will add the balise (http:// YOUR PHOTO URL.JPG) and the photo will show.

Now, you can use the internal system, more reliable, and the photos will stay up as long as the forum is alive (photo link can disappear quiet easily  :?

Hi there,
It is now possible to upload an image from you PC directly to forum !
No more excuses not to share your pictures  !  :D
The only limitation is the file size that must be 1000x1000 pixels maximum !

Here is how to do it :

When you post a message, you should see a new button :

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Fred/upload1.jpg)

Click it, and a new window will be opened :

(http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/images/uploads/Fred/upload2.jpg)

Easy, just click on browse, select you image and then, click on submit. And that's it !

The image format is not 550x550 anymore, but 1000x1000!

I use Photofiltre to resize the photos to 1000x1000, but you have thousands of softwares that will do that for you in a click of a button (windows image viewer etc :) )
Let me know if you have any problem !
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: rogallo on June 10, 2014, 12:38:59 PM
Click of a button he says, Now that is IT talk for you :)
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Fred on June 10, 2014, 12:57:24 PM
Nope, never mentioned reboot anywhere!  :lol:
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: rogallo on June 10, 2014, 13:28:25 PM
any chance of a blanik plan? finished or otherwise pretty please?
 :!:
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: billscottni on June 10, 2014, 16:47:40 PM
Quote from: "rogallo"
any chance of a blanik plan? finished or otherwise pretty please?
 :!:

Me Too, Me too :D  :D
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: Alan_Perse on June 10, 2014, 17:48:23 PM
Quote from: "billscottni"
Quote from: "rogallo"
any chance of a blanik plan? finished or otherwise pretty please?
 :!:

Me Too, Me too :D  :D


Me three  :D  :D  :D
Title: Aermacchi PSS project
Post by: mario on June 10, 2014, 20:44:44 PM
:mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen: