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A/B certs
« on: October 05, 2016, 10:00:51 AM »
Ladies, gentlemen and the rest of us, please find below the A and B cert schedules which have been proposed to be approved at the next A/B cert course next month.

SCHEDULE OF MANOEUVRES FOR THE A CERT “GLIDER” EXAM

1. Launch the model and gain height.
2. Fly for ten seconds straight and level across wind.
3. Fly for ten seconds straight and level across wind in the opposite direction to (2)
4. Perform one 360 degree left hand turn.
5. Perform one 360 degree right hand turn.
6. Perform two consecutive 360 degree 'thermal' turns, either left or right.
7. Fly into wind and perform a straight stall and recovery.
8. Fly a rectangular circuit in front of the slope in the opposite direction to that chosen for the landing approach.
9. Fly a rectangular landing circuit opposite to that flown in (8) and land within 20 metres of a pre-designated spot.


SCHEDULE OF MANOEUVRES FOR THE B CERT “GLIDER” EXAM

1. Launch the model, gain height and complete one horizontal circuit (either left or right hand) in front of the pilot.
2. Fly a horizontal figure eight with the crossover point in front of the pilot.
3. Fly two consecutive loops across wind.
4. Fly crosswind left to right and complete a stall turn away from the slope.
5. Fly crosswind right to left and complete a stall turn away from the slope.
6. Complete 10 seconds straight and level inverted flight across wind.
7. Perform one axial roll across wind, either from the left or right.
8. Perform one axial roll across wind in the opposite direction to (h), rotating in the opposite direction to (h).
9. Perform a three turn spin with exit in the same direction as the entry.
10. Fly a left hand rectangular landing approach and overshoot.
11. Fly a right hand rectangular landing approach and overshoot.
12. Fly a rectangular landing approach either left or right hand and land within 15 metres of a pre-determined spot.


The course documentation will be amended  to reflect the proposed schedules.

Examiners will be available on request at all of our event dates next year with a training weekend if required.

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Re: A/B certs
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2016, 19:26:30 PM »
Thanks Ralph. Just remind me what the benefit of being a B ticket holder is over that of an A cert please?

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Re: A/B certs
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2016, 08:47:32 AM »
Bragging rights  8)
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Re: A/B certs
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2016, 08:48:17 AM »
oh and you can fly gliders at pre approved MACI dispalys.
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Re: A/B certs
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2016, 15:58:24 PM »
Thanks Ralph, I'll go for the A cert then.

(I don't know of any MACI approved displays anyway.)

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Re: A/B certs
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2016, 18:10:08 PM »
Thanks Ralph,
An A cert will do me too! There may be a typo in either 8 or 9 - they seem identical.

Jim

PS a properly designed model should be very reluctant to spin! 75 or 100 years ago when aircraft design was in its infancy planes were prone to spin and recovery was a valid part of training. We can do better now however!


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Re: A/B certs
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2016, 19:56:49 PM »
Hi Ralph.
Do you need a certain type of glider, e.g. one with ailerons, to fly the A cert schedule?

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Re: A/B certs
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2016, 22:01:23 PM »
Alan,
Can't see anything in the A test that couldn't be done with a rudder/elevator model so don't think an aileron model would be needed. Not sure what the MACI plans are, but BMFA tests only require a "suitable model"

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Re: A/B certs
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2016, 22:11:29 PM »
Can it be done with an electric powered glider?
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Re: A/B certs
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2016, 10:13:08 AM »
Thanks Bill

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« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2016, 21:55:32 PM »
Alan, the model should be capable of performing each task. Assuming you have the right skills rudder /elev is fine but 3 channel is better.

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Re: A/B certs
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2016, 09:11:23 AM »
Thanks Ralph.

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Re: A/B certs
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2016, 10:26:40 AM »
Thanks Jim, 9 amended "Fly a rectangular landing circuit opposite to that flown in (8) and land within 20 metres of a pre-designated spot."
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Re: A/B certs
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2016, 15:17:45 PM »
Hi all,

First of all, apologies for the long silence! (I'm back!  :) )

Just to let you know that the A&B Cert for gliders should be made official at the next AGM (3rd of December).

If you already have a plane "A" cert, this gives you the glider "A" cert automatically!

If you don't have the "A" cert, we will be organizing a few A&B sessions as soon as this is voted on the 03/12.
And if you already have your A plane cert, I can only encourage you to pas the glider one too :) Easy enough for all to get!

Also note that your insurance will only cover you if you have a cert.

For B certs, even if you are not going to do any public display, I would also encourage you to pass it! I believe everybody have the level to get it within breaking a sweat!  :) 8) It will be fun!

Stay tuned for the next updates :)
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Re: A/B certs
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2016, 13:30:36 PM »
Also note that your insurance will only cover you if you have a cert.
Hi Fred.
I assume the insurance will still cover you if you fly models that weigh less than 4kg. You don't need an A cert to fly models less than 4kg right?