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Mount Leinster Sept 08 - ISR Glide-In
joe:
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Just one small fly in the oitment from my point of view: I found that power models doing 3D stuff in front of the flying line very distracting and annoying. I know it's a free world - anyone has the right to do that if that is their inclination. It is just my personal view that when a bunch of glider guiders organise to get together and enjoy their (mostly) silent machines, that power-only toys should stay in the car.... If one wants to fly and enjoy such models, one needs only go to your local flying patch (or even fly off your own front lawn) - you don't need to drive half-way across the country to a remote mountain-side to do so...
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The saying "People in glasshouses shouldn't throw stones" springs to mind here.
Or in other words.
I don't have a problem with people flying electric gliders or small electric planes at the slope, especially in the conditions we had on Sunday. The idea here is to get people out and flying, enjoying themselves and having a bit of fun. We all have different aspects of modeling we are drawn to.
Perhaps a little more tolerance toward one's fellow flyer is needed here?. Something that has been afforded you on more than one occasion.
Thats my two cent worth anyway!
Happy Days:
Hi Dave, and welcome to the party! :clap:
A word of caution however; Whilst most of the guys on this forum are fine upstanding members of society, there are a couple who are,........how shall I put it,.....of rather less savoury characters. (I'll whisper their names in your ear when I meet you :wink: )
Very glad you've decided upon the civilized way of model flying and not those noisy, smelly, oily things they call IC engines. You're obviously a man of great sense :)
I look forward to meeting you at the next get together.
Keith
Oh,......by the way. If you're going to bring some buns for Ralph, could you bring some chocy biscuits for me please? Yumy yum yums! :D
joe:
Thanks for coming along Dave. Great to have yourself and Gerry over for the day. Yeah, we spent the budget on the Sun and clear skies and ran out of cash for the wind. We did the opposite on Saturday. We'll spread it around a bit more next time.
I have a bit of a thing for the chocolate croissant Dave if ya have any of those :D
cvanscho:
--- Quote from: "joe" ---
--- Quote from: "cvanscho" ---
Just one small fly in the oitment from my point of view: I found that power models doing 3D stuff in front of the flying line very distracting and annoying. I know it's a free world - anyone has the right to do that if that is their inclination. It is just my personal view that when a bunch of glider guiders organise to get together and enjoy their (mostly) silent machines, that power-only toys should stay in the car.... If one wants to fly and enjoy such models, one needs only go to your local flying patch (or even fly off your own front lawn) - you don't need to drive half-way across the country to a remote mountain-side to do so...
--- End quote ---
The saying "People in glasshouses shouldn't throw stones" springs to mind here.
Or in other words.
I don't have a problem with people flying electric gliders or small electric planes at the slope, especially in the conditions we had on Sunday. The idea here is to get people out and flying, enjoying themselves and having a bit of fun. We all have different aspects of modeling we are drawn to.
Perhaps a little more tolerance toward one's fellow flyer is needed here?. Something that has been afforded you on more than one occasion.
Thats my two cent worth anyway!
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Joe, I was expressing an opinion that I still believe is as valid as anyone else's. It is unfortunate that you see fit to respond with a personal attack which I believe is most unfortunate, and un-called for.
I would like to point out the following:
1. I was not talking about electric gliders. Yes, I have one too, and I use the power system to save the plane when lift dies. That is a very different scenario to buzzing and hovering back and forth ("3D stuff") right in front of glider flyers who are trying to concentrate on often quite distant planes.
2. I enjoy other sorts of RC as well. I don't bring my heli or Stryker etc. to glider fly-ins.
3. I would be the first to admit that my actions have been a PITA at meetings, and I unreservedly apologise for that. BUT, in my defence, the "events" have all been because of a lack of skill and experience (I am particularly not used to sharing the sky and landing area with other planes and flyers, and this makes me considerably nervous). In other words, I don't believe that any of my actions that required so much "tolerance" on the part of others, can be accused of being premeditated or deliberate. I was immediately very much aware of, and deeply embarassed by my "tolerance-needing" accidents. I think I tried to apologise to all. Clearly that is totally different to the issue I was commenting on in my post...
4. I'm deeply aware that my flying at fly-ins has been bad enough at times to get myself labelled as a "hazard", and maybe even be banned from such events. My response would be that that does not show a lot of tolerance towards those who clearly need more coaching and experience. However, should that come to pass, I would expect it to be taken care of outside of a public forum environment, and that it would be based on specific charges, not the vague, undefined accusations you are inferring.
4. This is, after all, a: "forum", where opinions are (supposed to be) expressed and debated. I made it clear in my comments that I was expressing only my own, personal opinion. If you do not agree with me, that is fine, but you need to respect my right to an opinion as well. Turning this into a personal attack (on behalf, it seems, of more people than just yourself) is disrespectful, and not, I believe, appropriate behaviour for a forum.
5. I think I may have totally misunderstood the reason for the ISR fly-ins. I did not realise it was all about "getting people out and flying", etc. That seems to imply any sort of RC plane. I thought it was about flying slope gliders. My mistake.
Happy Days:
Gentlemen,..........there is an old poem called Desiderata. (Look it up in Wikepeadia, or Google it.)
It's a reflection upon the meaning of life, the universe, and everything.
In it, it acknowledges that we are all different. That we all aspire to different goals, have different fears, and see different meanings in things.
It also suggests that we, "Speak our thruths quietly and clearly, and listen to others"
That's my two cents worth.
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