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Mount Leinster Sept 08 - ISR Glide-In
cvanscho:
"Go placidly amid the noise and confusion...".. Good call that, Keith (and I did that from memory - I'm 53, so Desiderata posters - and the song - was very much part of my youth.. :D )!
joe:
No Chris you have not misunderstood the reason for the fly-ins. They are essentially slope(glider) meetings. My point is that, it is difficult to encourage people to come out and fly and take part. If someone makes the effort to come to a meeting and find the gliders they have are not suitable for the conditions I for one am happy enough that they fly small electrics. This is just my own feeling on the matter. I do not want these people to be put off coming again next time when perhaps the glider they do have will work for the conditions.
This is what i should have said.
My earlier comments (and they are my own views only) were geared toward making the above point only. I was perhaps a little heavy handed. They were not intended was a personnel attack on yourself.
I understand entirely the learning process involved when getting used to flying with other people and having 4/5 gliders in the air at once is a nerve-racking experience in the beginning . I have gone through and am still going through the process myself. The only way of course is to get out there and fly and learn from the experience and any "events" we have along the way (of which we all have a few).
What i am saying is "Live and let Live"
Fred:
Hello there :D
Dave, welcome to the forum ! Really nice to see you guys and share some thermals with you ! :D
And I'm up for any sort of cakes ! :P The ones at the Nationals were delicious ! :D
Fred:
And if I can join the debate... :wink:
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3. I would be the first to admit that my actions have been a PITA at meetings, and I unreservedly apologise for that. BUT, in my defence, the "events" have all been because of a lack of skill and experience (I am particularly not used to sharing the sky and landing area with other planes and flyers, and this makes me considerably nervous). In other words, I don't believe that any of my actions that required so much "tolerance" on the part of others, can be accused of being premeditated or deliberate. I was immediately very much aware of, and deeply embarassed by my "tolerance-needing" accidents. I think I tried to apologise to all. Clearly that is totally different to the issue I was commenting on in my post...
4. I'm deeply aware that my flying at fly-ins has been bad enough at times to get myself labelled as a "hazard", and maybe even be banned from such events. My response would be that that does not show a lot of tolerance towards those who clearly need more coaching and experience. However, should that come to pass, I would expect it to be taken care of outside of a public forum environment, and that it would be based on specific charges, not the vague, undefined accusations you are inferring.
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My first thought on this was that "flying alone" all the time is not a good excuse to jeopardise safety of others during events, even if I understand the bad habits things (and not only for you, but in a general sense...)
Now, I'm going to do positive cristism, because after all, it's just a hobby.
Chris, I think, reading your comments, you know (and I think you must be brave to admit it ! Not easy!) you have a lot of progress to do. To be honest, I can see that too when I see you flying, you don't need a long time to understand that the glider is in control of it's destiny :D But last week end, I saw a really good landing you've made, and maybe the best one I saw from you :clap:
Another honest thing, in my mind, you are categorised as a "dangerous pilot". By that, I mean when you have a glider in the air, you never know where the machine is going to end up. As I said earlier, I see the glider being more in control than the pilot (and believe me, 24 years in the thing, saw that a lot already...). But that don't mean that is never going to change (practice practice ! :wink: )...
Now, one thing I keep asking myself, and I'm dead serious on that one... Why do you keep flying mouldies ? I know, it's cool, look good etc etc, but why, for a little while, not to try to go back to basics ? No shame on that IMO (I fly with a easyglider, 2 ch HI Fly etc etc too !)
I think you have an Easyglider ? Why not keep flying it, learn / train to have precise flying path, landings, learn how to use the rudder, cinetic energy of the glider etc etc... Of course, I would be happy to help (you and others if they want to join of course ! Actually, can be a good idea to have a solep soaring/glider workshop :?: ). Skills and experience don't fall from the sky (not like gliders :P )
You can't pretend doing F3F stuff or aerobatics without having the basics right. You can try and try, that will not work ! Talking a lot on forums is one thing, doing the actual things right in a slope, is another (That's what I keep saying to a lot of guys, stop theorising, practice ! :wink: ) It's a shame, because you are able to do really good stuff (the landing I saw :clap: ) and in the mean time, be able to have a row of pilots moving back from the slope while you are flying...
I hope you will see all the above as positive criticism (They are! In bad English, but they are!) And if you need any help/advice, you know where to ask ! :D
And note that the above comments are good for everybody...
My 1 euro and 2 cents worth :wink:
Happy Days:
Hi Fred,
I got about 20 minutes worth of video footage at the Glid In. But a combination of poor light (on Saturday), cheap camcorder (100euro 'by it now' on ebay) and the fact that I'm a terrible cameraman :oops: meant that only a couple of minutes are usable. :cry:
Oh, give me the days of wind up 8mm film camera's. These modern camcorders are far too testicle for me. :)
Anyway, I've been trying to up load it to the forum but I can't.
So, what should I do with it? (No rude comments from Joe please!)
K.
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