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Gliders => Slope Soaring => Topic started by: rogallo on August 13, 2010, 20:01:21 PM
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Fred,
I would love to travel next year, just wondering where might the event be held please?
Ralph
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Hi Ralph.
It's in Normandy next year. Even easier to get to than the wasserkuppa. I hope to go myself. check it out here. www.retroplane.net/retroplane2011/index.htm
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As Alan said :D
Around 20 minutes drive from the Port I believe :D
I'll be there !!
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firstly, a very belated happy new year to all and sundry (especially sundry!), hope all goes well for everyone in 2011.
i checked the retroplane site just now and saw that the registration is open. seeing as this reg will fill up quite quickly, i would advise anyone interested in going to get themselves reg'd soon.
i'm working on a manuel crested wren, 3m span and coming along nicely. hope to have photos soon. gb
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I have my registration form ready to go :D :D . Who else is thinking of going?
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Count me in! :D
Well, as usual really :P
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Les Kevin and I, have models will travel. Two weeks we hope, 5th july ish, anyone else have an idea of where when they will travel. Hoping to stay at campsite.
Ralph
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Don't t hink anybody from the North is going.
Nobody has, at this stage, a completed model, (with the exception of Andrew Wallace who has a Flair K8).
On top of that I'm a Civil (Me, never civil! :lol: ) Servant and we have a two year pay freeze, so money is pretty tight :x
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Booked the ferry this morn, heading out on the 5th and returning on the 17th, anyone else made plans yet?
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Hey Ralph,
Which Ferry company did you choose ?
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Celtic line like you suggested
1050 for three with trailer
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Yeah, they are the cheapest!
I think we will be on the same ferry! :)
Well, on the way in, still don't know for the way back myself!
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Good good. Any idea who else will travel, Joe, Alan.
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I have registered myself for Retroplane, so I'm hoping to go. At the moment my plan is to go to England for some Holidays and hop across the channel for Retroplane while there. Haven't booked anything yet.
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Hi Lads.
Unfortuntily I won't be going to Retroplane this year :( :( :( . Some things have come recently and I can't go as a result. I was looking forward to it.
Hopefully next year.
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:( :(
Hope nothing too serious :(
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No, nothing to serious Fred. Hopefully I will make next years event. Do you know where it might be?
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Yep :mrgreen: :-$
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Is it near by? :D :D :D
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sorry to hear you won't be going alan, i know you were looking forward to it.
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Hi Gerry. Well the good thing is I'll have the time to get some more gliders built for the next Retroplane. From what I learned from Retroplane 2010 in the Wasserkuppe and from tountinna last weekend is that it is a good idea to have a light weight scale glider for light conditions.
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I’ve always understood that it doesn’t really matter what the overall weight of the plane is, what is important is the wing loading. The less weight each square meter of wing surface has to support, the more chance of the plane flying in low lift conditions.
True or false? lads. :?:
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Have to disagree k, all you need are a big set of liathroidi! and a bit of experience
Aint that right Frank?
R
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Liathroidi!
I’d never heard of the word. :?:
I looked it up in my big Oxford dictionary,…………no such thing! :!:
Checked out Wikipedia = No go there either. :!: :!:
Finally, Google gave me the answer. :roll:
So, is that how you manage to fly in light conditions Ralph?
(You're rude! :oops: )
K.
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i'm not so sure frank, no matter how big the liathroidi are, you still need plenty of huffn and puffn to keep it up !!!
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Ah now gentlemen you forgot that I also mentioned experience. Ger made two attempts to fly the K13 while there was little wind but a good chance of lift. Now the K13 is not light but yes it is a reasonable lightweight when it comes to scale vintage gliders.
Alan what I am saying is that the K8 (your one ) is probably as lightweight(see keiths def) as vintage gliders get and I think that learning to scratch is what you need to practice ( Oh no another scolding coming here methinks!)
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Actual Ralph. Me and Ger compared the weights of our gliders and despite his been slightly bigger than mine (4m wingspan compared to my 3.75m) mine was heavier than his (thus heavier wing loading). So if Ger could not keep his K13 up I would have had no chance in keeping my K8 up. But I think you are right I do need practice scratching in light lift.
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At the end of the day wing loading is, in my humble opinion, a bit overrated when it comes to light conditions. Sure, you don't want HEAVY, but efficiency of the airframe and, as Ralph says, experience may be more important. You will see less experienced pilots sometimes hang too much on their "up" elevators and slow the models down a bit too much, in the belief that "floating" is the way to fly in very light conditions. It does depend on the plane of course, but generally a glider likes to be trimmed for a good speed, this lets it "run" to get a good flow of air over the lifting surfaces of the wings (particularly when searching for lift). But (as Ralph also said), it can require over-sized cahoonas to do that with a big scalie you have invested years of your time building...
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I agree about having an efficient airframe. No point in having a light wing loading if you have a draggy airframe.
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Another great Retroplane!
And a good Irish representation :clap:
A quick photo with Les, Ralph, Ger, Kevin, myself and a few machines we brought to the event.
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Base camp, with the Irish colours!
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And more to come! :D
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Hello Boys
I'am happy to see you another time .. Maybe in september
See you soon
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Ecrivez a l'Arc, c'est pas facile!! :lol: :lol:
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Ecrivez à l'arc :D
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bouarffffffffffff :lol:
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
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élo olde folcse !
Aillam api tou bi ire !
Aille poste saume pictcheure ire wène aille undertstande auwe oui maique ite.
Saut longue.
Frederic
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hi fred nice too meet you :wink:
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It's amazing , the numbers of news registred today :D
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Hi Fred. Welcome back. I hope you and everyone else had a good time.
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Thanks Alan,
Yeah, another good year! Photos later :D
Erwan, je crois qu'on a besoin d'une section Francaise! :D :D
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Je pense également, car il y a des chances que d'autres personnes s'inscrivent.
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I've been registered a long time ago! :D
Another Retroplane guy...
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avec de la fibre...... :D
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Ok, so, I'm back to my normal work schedule, a bit of time finally to put some photos of this year's event :D
Packing of the car.. Not much this year as I had a few things to bring back with me :D
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This year, vintage wise, I only brought my Ka1 and Grunau Baby.
We met with the rest of the Irish gang in Rosslaer, as by pure luck :P we all were in the same ferry!
Of the voyage, were :
Ralph
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Les
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Kevin and Myself
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And of course, Ger and his wife :D
Group photo on the deck :
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We got busy on the boat, watching... other boats! :lol:
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Well, that's before the drinks, and the good story down at the boat's restaurant until late at night :D
France! Finally!
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For once, not a big drive, as Vauville is only around 20 minutes drive from Cherbourg.
The Cork crew following me :
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We met near Vauville with a bunch of crazy French people (Ronan, sa Sainteté :lol: ) and did a convoy to the campsite. Lovelly village near the sea!
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And the campsite view from the slope...
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Time to setup Base camp with the Irish colours, followed a few days after by a Pirate flag :mrgreen:
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First contact with the Indigenous people... And first drink (first of soooooo many!! :D )
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Already some radios are being programmed in the camp...
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And the first trade for the Irish.. Electricity and milk for beers! :D
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Ok, just arrived, tent is up, few drinks already in, time to get serious... With aerotowing on the beach.
Staring Ronan with the Mini Waco, Laurent with the PB4
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Nanard having a go with my FunCub
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Our playground for the week.. Day and night flying!
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Oh, and we saw some Parisians snobing us with crabs... Challenge accepted!
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Time to make our ground, and first Irish aperitif was in in Ronan's quarters!
Ronan.. Natural! :P
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Laurent
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The Pope
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Frederic and Philippe
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Lolo Météo and Frederic
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Good saucissons and fromages flowing along some nice Irish beers and cider :D Life!
We all ended up in my tent for more... With Champagne this time!
Ok, ok, sound like we actually drank a lot... Our excuse is that we only see each others once a year, lots to catch up!
That's my excuse, and I stand by it! :D
But this event is about flying, but this is also about meeting friends, having good time, and that is what make this meeting so special...
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Good times! Foie gras, Duck legs, good wines... Life!
Ended up at 2am with Frederic and Philippe testing some local specialities, like this lovely Rasperry Spirit (bottle is hand carved...) and off for a good night!
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First casualties showed up the next day, starting with the Pope having a nap in his car during the slope visit... :lol: :lol:
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belles photos :lol:
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Great photos Fred :D . I wish I could have been there :x
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Very good Fred, (And I am proud to have you as my friend, old fruit. :P )
It looked a tad chilly, but plenty of wind it seems. That’s what’s needed, and lot’s of it! :D
Good to see you enjoyed yourselves. :D (I think you're all a bunch of drunkards :lol: )
Keith
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I love you too Keith :D :D
I have more photos, but I had to give my Laptop at work to some President / CEO / Big Boss for a demo...
Hope he like gliders! :mrgreen:
If I have a copy at home, I'll continue, and I may even put photos of some gliders! :P
belles photos
Et pas une de planeur pour l'instant! :P
Ca va viendre :D
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Ok, finally got my laptop back!
A few gliders photos now! Sorry for the quality, but this is all my little camera can manage :cry:
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Pilots line :P
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Ronan's Lunak
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All serious of course :P
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Mosh :
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The Pope's little Lunak
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Glass Matt' and Ronan :D
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Les and Ralph, flying the Opel
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Me Flying the Big Pilatus. 11Kgs and some really nice aerobatics! (photos taken after the event :wink: )
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More gliders!
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Ralph's Ka8 (bit blured...)
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A.S 25
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Frederic Willy Farmer - Winner of the Golden Rib :clap: :clap:
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Phew! Some lovely models there, real vintage stuff. (Love the Tri plane 8) )
Thanks for posting Fred
K.
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No problemo, thanks Keith :D
And there's more! :D
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Continued...
This year, Claude Lacombe brought with him a "scale" catapult :clap: Work with poulies, a heavy weight etc.. A bit of work is still needed to have successfull launches (the cord used is too elestic, that mixes the poulies...) but a real nice team effort, and a good laugh! :clap: :clap:
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Bungee launches on the Sunday...
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Group photo... Germany
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Ireland :
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Ger's Wren
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Then, that was Restaurant for us in the Village of Vauville. Time to taste some specialties!
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And Ile Flottante :D
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This is also Night flying on the beach :D
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Followed by a night aperitif :D
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trop bien tes photos fred :lol:
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Merci mon Ronan :D
Ca donne un peu l'ambiance :D
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oui mais juste un peu :)
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Un tout petit peu! :lol:
Y'aura la surprise de la video aussi, je sais plus ce qu'il y a dessus ! :oops: :lol:
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Oh, j'oubliai!!!
Resistancia!
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Salut les potos !
Sympa les photos mon Fred !
Un peu de fraicheur, de calme et d'amitié franche et joyeuse au milieu de la morosité !
Grosses bises à tous ! \:D/
Frédéric
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Tu veux dire des trucs comme ca ? :lol: :lol:
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Haaaaa!!!!
:shock:
Limite, ça fait peur !
:lol:
Bon, j'ai installé, converti, etc... je te tiens au courant.
Frédéric
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Ok, cool! :clap:
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Ok, give us a nice long empty beach... And we'll change it to a flying platform!
A very small hill along the beach (maybe a few metre high at most), and here goes slope soaring at our door steps. LOts of different gliders flew there when the conditions were right, but lighter models prevailed most of the days.
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And you often been waked up by the delicious sound of gliders being towed (those Czech guys are just crazy! :D )
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c'est sympa, cet effet David Hamilton sur tes photos! :D
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Salut Fabrice :D
Ouais, c'est pas voulu! C'est ce foutu apparil photo qui m'a fait ca, je sais pas pourquoi!
J'ai pris des photos hier, et la, il le fait plus! :!:
Trop pres de centrales, ca doit le pertuber! :lol:
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Ton objectif ne doit pas être étanche, et avec l'humidité qu'il faisait, la buée a mis du temps à s'évaporer...
Quoique, côté humidité, chez toi..... :lol:
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:lol: :lol: La, c'etait plutot sec pour moi comme temps! :P
Mais c'est vrai que ca fait un peu ca comme effet on dirait. Peut etre la lentille qui n'est plus etanche ou un truc du genre :?:
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Mets-y un gros boudin de silicone! :P
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Nan, j'ai tout collé a l'époxy! :lol: :P
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Salut Orionis et Fred,
Tu parles de qui quand tu dit "un gros boudin de silicone" ?
:lol:
Ca va à part ça ?
Bises
Frédéric
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:lol: :lol: Loana ? (top dans l'actu! :lol: )
Ok, je sors!
Ben sinon ca va, pire mois de Juillet depuis 1997 ici apparement!
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quoi , loana dans la safrane :mrgreen:
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Oh my God. I thought I would never need Google translate for the Glider Ireland Forum :D :D :D :D
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At last, it's a French invasion! :D
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You are right Alan, you should never translate this, it's dirty ^^
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
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hello everybody, I' m the last french invader.........and happy to be here. :D
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Welcome you Eminence. Thank you for your hospitality while in France.
Ralph
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thank you, it was a pleasure to meet you
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hello everybody, even a french invader
and happy to be here.
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Hello everybody,
one more ! :wink:
Nice to meet you :D
Lolo
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Salut les Laurent! :D
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Hello Lolo,
it is good to hear from you.
Ralph
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Hi there,
A video from Retroplane.
Sorry for the bad qualiy, did not made any effort (need time! :!: :!: )! This is basically a raw video with some music of what I had in the camera!
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I see you’ve moved onto Vimeo at last Fred. Well done.
They were very clear images, :clap: much better than my camcorder produces. Guess I’d better start thinking about getting a new one, but I’ve only got a limited budget this year. :!:
Hhmmmmm,…..let me see, :?: ………… Camcorder or Viagra?
Tuff Call !
Keith
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cool ta video mon fred :wink:
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yep, je plussoie vigoureusement!
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+1 avec les 2 autres :D
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et l autre vidéo :wink:
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Great video Fred !!!!!!!
You all know how to enjoy your flying :D
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L'autre video, brute de decoffrage arrive.
Qu'est ce qu'on raconte comme conneries quand meme! :lol: :lol: :D :D
Et cette video, je crois que ca faisait 10 minutes que j'etais arrivé!
Another video is coming next. All in French sorry, but the amount of stupid stuff said during the 9 minutes video is pretty incredible! :D :D
God we had fun! :D
Video was taken roughly 10 minutes after we arrived at base camp!
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The Retroplane 2011 DVD is out! :clap:
All here : http://www.retroplane.net/dvd-retro2011.htm
Buy it! I know you want it! :D
Trailer (14Mb):
http://www.retroplane.net/retroplane2011/BA_Retroplane2011_640px.wmv
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I’ll take my hat off to the producer of that trailer :D . Interesting, entertaining, and humorous.
Bloody well done m’sieur! :clap: :clap: (Whoever you are)
Keith