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Indoor / CMAC indoor Fly in
« on: October 29, 2009, 13:49:20 PM »
Quote from: "DaveMc"
...I decided to get on board with this indoor lark. It sounds like lots of fun so I just purchased a Dualsky Breeze Pro. Reckon I will get it built in time if Als hobbies gets it over to me ASAP. Should be a fun experience...

That's great. The important thing now is to build it light. Resist any urge you might have to reinforce anything or use lots of adhesive! The weight range given for the Breeze is on the high side - you'll enjoy it much more if you can keep it around 120g to 135g. This style of plane does fly much better when they're light and in reality the heavier they are the more damage they usually end up with.

Have you decided what motor, cells and servos you'll use?
Typical weights for a plane this size are:
Motor: 15g
ESC: <8g
Cells: 12g to 22g
Servos: 4g to 6g each

If you want any suggestions for components let us know!


Aidan

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Indoor / CMAC indoor Fly in
« on: October 29, 2009, 13:24:04 PM »
Quote from: "Brian"
Hi Aidan,
Where in Killkenny are you.
Are you in a club there.

Brian

Hi Brian,

I'm living a few minutes walk from the centre of town on the Kells road. I'm not in a club in Kilkenny. I generally head up to Kildare at the weekends and do most of my flying there, although not enough.

Aidan

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Indoor / CMAC indoor Fly in
« on: October 29, 2009, 10:44:15 AM »
Quote from: "DaveMc"
...As for that F3P stuff. Way out of my league at the moment. But cant wait to see one of them fly...

I reckon the F3P style planes are probably the easiest planes to fly indoors. Not so easy to perform an F3P schedule with them though!

Aidan

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Indoor / CMAC indoor Fly in
« on: October 28, 2009, 17:18:14 PM »
Quote from: "rogallo"
Just finishing for two weeks time

Will fly it before the indoor

Great.
I think Eanna and Stu will have F3P planes too, as I'm sure will Richard if he's coming. Should we agree a simple F3P schedule for an informal competition?! :wink: (....not sure we should let Richard play, he'll just make us look silly :?: )
I'll be bringing my original 2.2 and the 3. I might throw together an EPP delta for messing around if I get time.

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Indoor / CMAC indoor Fly in
« on: October 28, 2009, 14:37:00 PM »
There's an Index 3.0 prototype.
It only had one outing at the end of last season. It flew well but needs some tuning. I'm hoping to get a chance to fly it again before Cork.
Did you build an Index 2.2?

Aidan

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Indoor / CMAC indoor Fly in
« on: October 28, 2009, 14:18:37 PM »
Hi Ralph,

I'll be there! I think Stu and Eanna are coming too.
Time to dust off the depron. They hardly got an outing last year!

Dave,

You won't regret giving it a go. Indoor is a little nerve racking at first but you'll get the hang of it quickly and it's great fun. There's no better way to improve your flying, it's especially good for getting you better acquainted with the throttle and rudder.

Aidan

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Indoor / Indoor Pattern Aerobatics (F3P)
« on: September 22, 2008, 23:05:03 PM »
Is anyone interested in trying some F3P flying this winter and maybe some relaxed competitions. We could always experiment with some indoor pylon racing or combat on the side :lol:.

As some of you may know, the guys in Lisburn and Dungannon ran a couple of very enjoyable and well attended indoor aerobatics competitions last season. I'm sure they'll be building on that this season and it would be great to get something similar started further south. Myself and a couple of others travelled to the 2 events last year and had a great time.
No previous RC competition experience required!

F3P
F3P is the indoor equivalent of F3A but a lot cheaper and in my opinion a lot more fun and a great way to improve your flying. It can be flown in a typical 1 basketball court / 4 badminton court sports hall.

The Planes
I've attached a few pictures below to give an idea of the sort of planes used. They're typically built much like a Shockflyer from 3mm depron sheet and carbon rods. They're similar to Shockflyers in size but the purpose designed planes are lighter and more rigid. Most purpose designed planes are monoplanes weighing between about 110g and 140g which makes them nice and slow and very easy to manoeuver indoors. Biplanes are sometimes heavier, up to around 200g. You could use one of the Ikarus Shockflyer's to start off with but try and keep it light.
I really like the way these planes fly and I reckon the purpose designed planes are worth a try even if you have no interest in competitions.

There are plenty kits available for excellent designs like the Clik, Nexus and Mercury. Alternatively you can build from a plan or design your own with a little depron and carbon rod. I can point you in the direction of kits, plans or materials. Just ask!
I might put together some basic kits for my own "Index 3" design if anyone's interested.

The bits and pieces
A typical setup uses a motor weighing less than 20g, 3 servos each around 5g and a 2 cell battery around 350mAh capacity.
This size gear has gotten a lot cheaper and more easily available over the last year or so. If you've already flown Shockflyers you probably have suitable radio gear. You'll probably want a lighter motor and maybe lighter cells. I'm using a Hacker A10-15s that cost about €30 in my plane. There are suitable options from as little as €8 up to exotic stuff around €100. Batteries are also relatively inexpensive at about €12 for a good pack.
If you're interested and need help picking equipment let me know and I can give you a hand.

The Events
There are two disciplines at most events, F3P and Aeromusical.

F3P
F3P consists of flying a prescribed aerobatic schedule. It comes in 3 flavours from a pretty straight forward F3P-C schedule to the very difficult F3P-A schedule.
The guys in the north also ran a "Basic" schedule last year which was very successful and could be flown without a purpose built plane.
If we do run any events this year I'd suggest we forget the F3P-A schedule and just do Basic and F3P-C or if enough are interested we could run F3P-B too.

Aeromusical
This is a 2 minute freestyle flight to music. You can use the same planes although I think the rules allow Shockflyers, IFOs or almost anything else to be used too!

I think myself, Eanna and Stu are definitely up for it and I'm hoping Ralph can rally some support down his neck of the woods :wink: . Joe, Fred, Paul, could you be tempted? Anyone else?

Aidan









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Events / Mount Leinster Sept 08 - ISR Glide-In
« on: September 19, 2008, 16:59:57 PM »
Quote from: "cvanscho"
...Just one small fly in the oitment from my point of view:  I found that power models doing 3D stuff in front of the flying line very distracting and annoying.  I know it's a free world - anyone has the right to do that if that is their inclination.  It is just my personal view that when a bunch of glider guiders organise to get together and enjoy their (mostly) silent machines, that power-only toys should stay in the car....  If one wants to fly and enjoy such models, one needs only go to your local flying patch (or even fly off your own front lawn) - you don't need to drive half-way across the country to a remote mountain-side to do so...

Chris,

Obviously you're referring to me.
I didn't realise I was upsetting anyone.
I only flew that plane after the wind had died to almost nothing and glider flying had almost stopped. If I remember correctly I even asked a couple of those at the flight line if they minded before I flew. Had I known anyone objected I would have thought again. I came to fly gliders but having seen the forecast for very light wind I brought an electric too.

You seem to be making an awfully big deal about this considering we're talking about a very quiet 4oz plane that was airbourne for no more than 10 minutes during a period of almost dead calm.
In future feel free to let me know if I'm breaking a point of etiquette and I'll refrain from doing it.

Aidan

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Events / Mount Leinster Sept 08 - ISR Glide-In
« on: September 19, 2008, 16:40:54 PM »
Hello everyone,

I haven't checked in here for a while.
I really enjoyed Mt. Leinster on the Sunday. Pity there wasn't a little more wind but great fun all the same.

Super pictures Anthony and Fred!

Aidan

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Indoor / Lisburn competition on 7th Dec
« on: November 02, 2007, 08:59:35 AM »
Hi guys,

The guys in the north have decided to give F3P (Indoor precision aerobatics) a go and have organised an introductory competition for the evening of Friday Dec 7th. I've attached their flyer. They'll be running a basic non-aerobatic schedule too. I think the main event will be the F3P-C schedule. I haven't tried flying the schedule yet but I plan to enter if I can fly anything vaguely resembling the correct sequence of manoeuvers :o There'll also be F3P-AM (aeromusical routine).

Being on Friday evening I presume it'll be a problem for most of us from Dublin, Cork or elsewhere to make it but I'm going to try.

Richard Boyd posted this on RCGroups.com:
Quote
The well know IMAC pilot Mathew Poots is arranging a F3P and AM event in Lisburn just a few miles outside Belfast Northern Ireland . We are starting with a C shedule as we are all learning both pilots and judges but this has proven to be a hit and we have 20 pilots comitted to fly . Next years event is already being planned , this is how keen we all are to fly F3P.

Quote
the F3P-C schedule..... will be the main schedule for pilots !
The entry level or basic schedule...... is for novice fliers who we are encouraging to take part and get interested in F3P !
AM is for everyone to take part and entertain each other and show of there 3d skills to music ! Thanks for the help and i hope no one is confused .


The entry level schedule is:
TAKE OFF
ONE CIRCUIT
LEVEL FLIGHT
FIGURE 8
LOOP
PROCEDURE TURN -RIGHT
PROCEDURE TURN- LEFT
LANDING

The F3P-C is as per the attached Aresti schedule. I better make sure I know how to read it correctly!

Aidan

P.S. Flyer says BMFA insurance required but MACI is fine too.[/quote]

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Slope Soaring / Where do I get an EPP flying wing?
« on: June 25, 2007, 19:15:20 PM »
There's another option I forgot to mention yesterday. If you're interested in something for light lift and you can get your hands on some depron you might try a Pibros.

The Pibros is a small delta design which you can build start to finish in about 2hrs + radio installation with just a sheet of 3mm depron, some tape and some adhesive. They're good fun in light lift. They're pretty tough and haven't really enough mass to break in a crash but they do tend to wear out after a while! Still another 2 hrs work and you've got a brand new replacement!
I built one to test new sites earlier this year and it was ideal. The straight line performance isn't spectacular but they're extremely manoeuverable and you can have some fun with them providing the wind isn't too strong.

All the information you need to build one is at http://www.rc-soar.com/pibros/

Aidan

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Slope Soaring / Where do I get an EPP flying wing?
« on: June 24, 2007, 22:32:24 PM »
Hi Ron,

I'd suggest taking a look at:

Soar ahead sailplanes at http://www.freewebs.com/sasepp/
or
Phoenix Model Products at http://www.phoenixmp.com/acatalog/PMP_EPP_Range_of_Models.html

Both are UK companies specialising in EPP slope planes. I think the Soar ahead wings like the Mamba are probably the best for bouncability. The Phoenix planes like the Rampage probably have better performance but are a bit more expensive and probably just a little less crash proof.

I have an old SAS Wildthing (the original design not the Mk2). If you're interested I'd let you have it. I don't have any plans to fly it again myself. It's in good shape except that the reinforced crossweave tape these EPP planes are covered in degrades after a while (especially if exposed to sunlight) and after sitting around for a few years it could use re-covering. The Wildthing is very robust but the performance isn't as good as the more modern designs. Still good fun in decent lift.

Otherwise I reckon something like the SAS Mamba would make a great plane for testing new slopes.

Aidan

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Slope Soaring / Other lads and what they are doing
« on: May 23, 2007, 22:39:58 PM »
Hi guys

I've got a Rampage kit which has been sitting in the box for a few months.
A race event would be just the incentive to get it built!
My Dad's got a Hoodlum (which flies pretty nicely) so I'm sure he'd be up for it too.

Aidan

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Slope Soaring / Flying this weekend?
« on: May 05, 2006, 20:45:37 PM »
Hi guys,

The forcast is for 15 to 20mph S and SE winds on Saturday with some possible rain, 8mph SE winds on Sunday.

Would Glencree be suitable?

Incidentally I find the following website very good for forcasts :http://www.metcheck.com
Specify your location by city or co-ordinates.

See you at the slope perhaps!

Aidan

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Slope Soaring / Thank You From Cork Model Aero CLub
« on: April 29, 2006, 11:01:03 AM »
Yep, 'twas a good day.
Thanks Ralph and everyone else who was involved.
I'm sure I'll be back next year if not sooner.

Time to build some more planes now - the Obelix got me in the air but I need something for the lighter lift plus something faster.

Aidan

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