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« Reply #30 on: February 17, 2009, 12:41:21 PM »
:lol:  You're welcome Keith.
But I tough that was how you did it in the first place (solder)  :?:
Anyway, problem solved now, and Phase 6 back on track !  :clap:
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« Reply #31 on: February 22, 2009, 16:38:05 PM »
OUCH :(



So just how much stress is there on an elevator?

Answer = Too much.

I soldered the elevator arm............she flew fine for a few days ......but today, in front of a new gliding friend I made at the west slope.......the Phase refused to pull out of a dive and went nose first  into the valley floor! :cry:  :cry:  :cry:

It was a long walk of shame I had to make. (Even longer coming back up!)

Well it was good fun while it lasted. I think I'll go for an ARTF model next. Any suggestions?

Met this realy nice guy at the slope. Majic is his name, (probably spelt wrong.) He was there flying a "Starling".( WWW.kwarcinski.com ).  A lovely plane, and,......pay attention Joe..... it's VERY fast, makes a lovely sswiiisssshhh sound as it flys,.....AND all fits into a hold-all bag. Just right for taking on holidays.
Mind you, Majic is an expert flyer. Wot he can't do with that plane aint worth doing. He also says he has over 2000 hours flying full size gliders, so I recon he know's his "onions". (Or garlic's for Fred's benefit.)(Any sign of that baby yet Fred?)

Majic was there with a friend of his who want's to take up Sloping, sensible man I'd say :clap: So hopefully we'll have some more "bodies" on the slope during the coming season.

I'm off to dry my tears :cry:

Keith
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« Reply #32 on: February 22, 2009, 17:08:52 PM »
Feck !  :o
From here, seems relatively easy to repair  :?:

ARTF ? why ? They are no stronger than anything else ! And you can't say "I did it myself !"  :P  :D  Fly the Skua for a little while, the time to repair that one  :D

And welcome to Majic to the world of slope soaring !  :clap:

PS : Still no sign of the baby ! well cooked/overdue now ! Still on high alert !
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« Reply #33 on: February 22, 2009, 21:16:57 PM »
Bugger! Bugger! Bugger!
Looks like it is fixable as Fred says. Take a few days off and then look at it again. I have to cool down for a few days after a crash before I can start thinking about repairs

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« Reply #34 on: February 22, 2009, 21:41:20 PM »
Yes,.... you may be right Fred. I think I was feeling a bit "Down" when I wrote that last posting.

I know the Phase 6 has been around for many years, but I've lost all confidence in that elevator controll mechanism. I suppose I could fit a standard rod-in-sleeve type and secure a horn on the actuall elevator.
A number of servos have sheared, but they can be replaced, and the rudder/fin can be repaired.

My biggest problem, as I see it, is repairing the wing. the photo doesn't show the full extent of the damage. There is a dent and hole in the leading edge which extends back about 30mm. The wing is distorted behind  the dent where the material was pushed back by the impact. (i.e. the cross section is thicker behind the dent in the wing.) The wing is made of ply over polystyrene.

When she flys she's a really nice plane, so may be I'll leave her alone for a while and come back to her.

How should I tackle the repair of the wing? Polyfiller :shock:

(And tell that wife of yours to hurry up will you. I'm getting impatient!  :lol: )

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« Reply #35 on: February 23, 2009, 09:21:49 AM »
Hi Keith,
Once in a lifetime offer !
I will fix your wing.
You do the fuz,, and the covering.

Brian
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« Reply #36 on: February 23, 2009, 14:36:44 PM »
After a good nights sleep, (and a few tears on my pillow) I think Joe is right. Things look different the next day.

And how could I refuse such a generous offer Brian :clap:  

Are you sure you could fix this?



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« Reply #37 on: February 24, 2009, 14:00:23 PM »
Hi Keith,
If it's fixable,not compromised back through the section, I can.
We can meet up and it will take a few days.
I'll be in touch.

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« Reply #38 on: February 27, 2009, 13:02:17 PM »
Quote from: "Happy Days"
(And tell that wife of yours to hurry up will you. I'm getting impatient!  :lol: )

K.


Wait no more Keith !

Niamh is born last night at 00:41  :D  :D

I need a bit of CPR, but I'm fine.

Mother is fine too  :P

See you in 20 years in a slope... :P  [-o<
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« Reply #39 on: February 27, 2009, 14:14:08 PM »
Félicitations Fred  :D  :D  :D . Don't worry we will find a way to drag you out to the slope some time  :D .

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« Reply #40 on: February 27, 2009, 15:32:29 PM »
There's an old saying Fred: Better late than never! :lol:

Many congratulations to you and to Mrs. Fred who did all the hard work. :clap:  :clap:  (Well, most of it.)

Now have some rest my friend, and I'll look forward to flying with you again soon and certainly more than once within the next decade!

Keith & Mandy
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« Reply #41 on: February 27, 2009, 17:32:05 PM »
Great news Fred. Well done all round. Congratulations to you and Rachel.
I not worried I'm sure we'll have you out on the slope again soon.
Where there's a will there's a way and all that!
Or in your case "Where there's a HILL there's a way"  :D  :D

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« Reply #42 on: February 28, 2009, 05:06:54 AM »
"Where there's a Hill there's a way" ?

That's a very witty comment Joe :clap:

I can't belive you thought of that  :?:
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« Reply #43 on: February 28, 2009, 11:21:59 AM »
I have my moments Keith. I surprise myself sometimes! :D

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« Reply #44 on: March 01, 2009, 10:25:20 AM »
They say a week is a long time in politics, it's even longer when you're a sloper without a plane! So I've repaired/ modified the Phase 6. I've even fixed the wing! I thought, "If Brian says it's fixable, it must be!" So I did.
I pressed the wing back into shape before filling the hole and bonding it together with a paste of epoxy and micro balloons. Fixed a new piece of LE and used light filler to fill in the remaining dents.



Then sanded it down to shape



And re-covered the repair.


Good as new! (Well, almost)

I through out the original controll rod and closed loop ruder controlls in favour of Sullivan plastic controll rods. Had to cut an access hole in the side of the fuse to fit a mid fusalarge support for the rods. (To stop them flexing during operation)



And I added another support for the rods in the wing saddle area.





Finally I had to replace the aileron servos. I chose metal geared ones this time. They were a bit smaller than the previous ones.





So a few pieces of packing made them fit snugly into the wing, with double sided tape to hold them in place.



I've recovered all the damaged areas and so now it's just a case of putting this bird back up in the sky where she belongs.

I'll be doing than in a couple of hours time with Joe and my new friend who's name I now understand is Maciek. (I met him last week on the slope)

So I'm off to Big L. Wish me luck. (Or better still,.......join me there!)
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